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| #1wardrakeJun 07, 2008 3:54:15 | Do any of the DDi apps run on Windows Vista? |
| #2thehawklordJun 07, 2008 6:55:58 | I would like to know as well |
| #3neithermanJun 07, 2008 8:34:57 | I had assumed this was a given.....but if no-one has said anything I presume it is not..... |
| #4guivreJun 07, 2008 8:41:45 | Do any of the DDi apps run on Windows Vista? Vista barely runs on Vista. |
| #5katheroseJun 07, 2008 9:01:22 | On the system requirements section under the character visualizer, at least, it only says Windows XP SP2. So I don't know if it will be available for Vista as well or not. I sure hope so. Link |
| #6neithermanJun 07, 2008 9:53:58 | Vista barely runs on Vista. Thats not really true anymore.... 6 months ago maybe, but its really a pretty decent OS at this point. |
| #7thaxJun 08, 2008 8:12:20 | Thats not really true anymore.... 6 months ago maybe, but its really a pretty decent OS at this point. Does it still have DRM? This OS called Vista will not be used by me until the virus call DRM is gutted out of the thing. |
| #8high_octaneJun 09, 2008 11:44:19 | Thats not really true anymore.... 6 months ago maybe, but its really a pretty decent OS at this point. I work in technical support. I assure you sir....it's not. |
| #9WolfStar76Jun 09, 2008 12:50:52 | I work in technical support. I work in IT for a top 50 IP law firm. EVERY desktop/laptop here runs Vista, including legacy/custom applications, and we've only had a few minor problems (that were quickly and easily resolved). I also run Vista on my home computers for gaming, no problems there either. |
| #10steerpike7Jun 09, 2008 13:05:49 | I've been running Vista on two machines for nearly a year and a half. It's fine. I prefer XP simply because of the reduced resources utilized, but Vista hasn't given me any problems. I saw a statement by WotC_DM in these forums that it "requires" at least XP SP 2, and also runs on Vista. Actually, I haven't found anything that I run on XP SP2 that DOESN'T run on Vista (barring a few old DOS programs, but I'm talking Windows apps), so I think they're probably assuming its a given. |
| #11carteeg_struve_dupJun 10, 2008 20:10:40 | My wife was a life-long Windows user. When Vista came out, suddenly all of her graphic-development software crapped out. I was impressed. She had swore she would never switch to Macintosh. Vista did it. Congratulations Microsoft! It was quite a feat! ![]() But so long as DDi works on XP SP2, then I think at least a good chunk of the potential customer base may be able to use it. |
| #12steerpike7Jun 10, 2008 21:12:58 | My wife was a life-long Windows user. When Vista came out, suddenly all of her graphic-development software crapped out. So is she using highly specialized software or did she just roll a 1 on her 'use computer' skill check? |
| #13eldritch_lordJun 10, 2008 21:34:28 | Avoid the XP/Vista wars altogether--just go Linux like I did. ;) On topic, there's a high degree of backwards-compatibility with most XP stuff (like Vista Office being able to save in XP format, or so I've heard) so hopefully they'll do DDI the same way. Really, first we should worry about DDI running at all before we worry about a specific OS. |
| #14thaxJun 10, 2008 21:54:40 | Vista is simply a bad idea that has been implemented in the worst way possible. DRM is not something that is feasible in the way that Microsoft and the entertainment industry is trying to do it. The Operating System spends more time verifying that something is legally owned then it does running the programs. It is a bad OS. Do not let anyone else tell you differently. |
| #15urgogJun 11, 2008 15:31:59 | Vista is simply a bad idea that has been implemented in the worst way possible. Kind of like the idea to make a fourth edition of D&D, huh? Sorry, couldn't resist. :D |
| #16gizmoiscariotJun 13, 2008 10:33:05 | Kind of like the idea to make a fourth edition of D&D, huh? My little comment on this is I like so far from what I have seen from 4th edition. And I would be very shocked if they don't run on Vista. wotc would be shooting itself in the foot. I have finally been using Vista for the last couple of days at work and so far its seems stable, tho I do notice about a 5% decrease in performance (and thats just using browsing, RDP and a few other things). Obviously thats not very long but still, I was expecting to either not have it install or crash. So far Im more impressed than I thought I would be. |
| #17thaxJun 13, 2008 21:31:44 | My little comment on this is I like so far from what I have seen from 4th edition. The actual OS workings behind the pretty graphics are improved. Microsoft wouldn't have released it if it wasn't. The problem with the OS is the backwards thinking on Drivers (Individual to each piece of hardware, no one driver for a series of graphics cards, for exp), the DRM inforcement that causes that downgrade in performance you have noticed, and the fact that the true reason for the OS was scraped (better filing system and drive partitions) for the DRM inclusion, and half of the things that worked just fine in the past three OS's was jettisoned because DRM control would have been compromised with them in. It is a bad OS that tries to control Media and hardware. Mac is proprietary, but it doesn't downgrade playback of a blue ray disk because it thinks it was stolen or that the wrong wires is being used. Sorry, but I will never use Vista or any other OS that tries to have Digital Rights Management background noise trying to enforce a "No Copy" stance to the point of having the real thing be downgraded or shut down. |
| #18dreamingbadgerJun 14, 2008 2:13:23 | My little comment on this is I like so far from what I have seen from 4th edition. If it's browsing, you notice the performance decrement, it's almost certainly the anti-Phishing filter. Vista runs DX9 and later games really very well indeed, probably faster than XP, but DX8 and lower games slower than XP. DX10 is only available with Vista. As http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/insider/systemrequirements say's XP SP2 then it is a DX9 based platform. |
| #19gizmoiscariotJun 14, 2008 21:34:18 | If it's browsing, you notice the performance decrement, it's almost certainly the anti-Phishing filter. I use Firefox both at home and at work, so I don't think its the phishing filter. |
| #20thaxJun 14, 2008 21:40:22 | The filter is not a part of the browser as far as I know, but a background app that checks web pages, Instant messengers, and other online things. Course, I may be wrong on that. I do know there is a Phishing buster program made for WinXP that would run in much the same way. |
| #21wotc_dmJun 15, 2008 3:31:07 | Do any of the DDi apps run on Windows Vista? Yes, they all should. |
| #22steerpike7Jun 15, 2008 13:58:11 | Vista is simply a bad idea that has been implemented in the worst way possible. DRM is not something that is feasible in the way that Microsoft and the entertainment industry is trying to do it. The Operating System spends more time verifying that something is legally owned then it does running the programs. Another comment by someone who likely hasn't used Vista to any appreciable degree, if at all. But why let facts get in the way of an ignorant opinion? |
| #23thaxJun 15, 2008 14:17:47 | A Cost Analysis of Windows Vista Content Protection I know about how it is a bad OS. Just because I refuse to use it doesn't mean I am totally ignorant. |
| #24portermjJun 19, 2008 22:53:22 | Vista is simply a bad idea that has been implemented in the worst way possible. DRM is not something that is feasible in the way that Microsoft and the entertainment industry is trying to do it. The Operating System spends more time verifying that something is legally owned then it does running the programs. I've had no problem with the DRM affecting the programs I run. To be fair, everything on my computer was legally obtained. If that doesn't make me part of a minority of computer users, it at least puts me in a rapidly shrinking majority. I can understand why DRM would threaten a lot of users. Your milage may vary, but don't let anyone tell you Vista is flat out bad for everyone. |
| #25thaxJun 19, 2008 23:06:24 | I've had no problem with the DRM affecting the programs I run. The fact that you bought and paid for everything is not a guarantee that it will work with WINvista. The fact that these little bothersome programs are running ALL THE TIME in the background and can stop/downgrade content at a whim scares me and a lot of other people. |
| #26the_almighty_onionJun 19, 2008 23:38:02 | Not to be adversarial, but anyone that has any trouble running anything on Vista needs to do 3 things: learn how OSs work, learn how to google their problem, revert to using a pen and paper for all applicable uses for a computer. I have been running vista on this laptop for over a year and a half and have had no problems running any applications including some ancient DOS programs (moslo and ultima 6 just for kicks, also to show the students I tutor in CCNA I & II, Telecomunications Fundamentals, Programming and Logic, and Computer Hardware Diagnostics just how misinformed they are about vista). I have found the security features bundled into the OS coupled with a reputable antivirus have left me impregnable even when putting a challenge out to other networking and programming specialists an open invitation to invade my machine. Couple that with a functional knowledge of hijackthis and even I can't screw my own computer up. The "problems" reported by some have not been seen by myself or any of the other technophiles in my social group, all of whom use vista exclusively, excepting when going out of our way to try to cause said "problem" to occur. The only minor inconvenience we found was forming ad-hoc networks with inferior machines, which proved to be extremely minor once we figured out where the hangup was. If your problem with vista is that it has security features that verify that you actually own an application I have 2 suggestions. Get a real black hat and quit leeching off the efforts of others, or stop stealing content. If your problem with vista is that it "uses to many resources" then your real problem is that you have an inferior machine attempting to run superior software. Fix your box, not your OS. If your problem stems from Mac's ad campaign, ask yourself "Why would a niche product need to have an aggressive marketing campaign while an established, quality product would not?" If you can't answer that question, study marketing and economics. p.s. As icing on the cake, if you do wear a black hat vista has lots of other benefits that we won't discuss here. |
| #27KentinalJun 19, 2008 23:57:31 | *sighs* The question was answered. As far as OS XP appears to be required as minimum OS, but Vista works as well. The debate about the company spyware built into that and Vista does not matter, nor does a debate how powerful the box is to run an OS. |
| #28the_almighty_onionJun 20, 2008 0:49:05 | *sighs* Many apologies Kentinal. The question was answered long before it was asked. There are few things that can raise my ire like the bleating of the misinformed regarding quality programs. If the thread had sung praises to alternate OSs I would be pleased as punch to read them. They did not. It turned from a question about compatibility to a "lets repeat what tv tells us", reactionary, anti business for the sake of being anti business party, ehich really sets me off. Even your categorization of vista features as spyware is moderatley irritating, although I can understand that misconception. |
| #29KentinalJun 20, 2008 7:30:52 | Many apologies Kentinal. The question was answered long before it was asked. There are few things that can raise my ire like the bleating of the misinformed regarding quality programs. If the thread had sung praises to alternate OSs I would be pleased as punch to read them. They did not. It turned from a question about compatibility to a "lets repeat what tv tells us", reactionary, anti business for the sake of being anti business party, ehich really sets me off. Even your categorization of vista features as spyware is moderatley irritating, although I can understand that misconception. Then you misunderstood me, even 98 has some elements of spyware in it. In a tech forum there might be an interesting discussion about how well MS has improved their stealth programs in upgrading the OS to things like XP and Vista, I just am getting tried of reading about how bad Vista is because of the stealth aspects of the OS. |
| #30the_almighty_onionJun 20, 2008 7:35:15 | Then you misunderstood me, even 98 has some elements of spyware in it. Then you clearly misunderstand my position. Vista is a fantastic OS. Those who decry vista are largely the same crowd that resisted XP. I run vista exclusively and now find that using inferior OSs to be cumbersome and disintuitive. Also, you will note that I understand the misconception that spyware is bundled into vista for precisely the reason you state, monitoring your activity and other such 'elements of spyware' have been a part of quality OSs for quite some time. |