For example, 4ed is my favorite RPG baby, love it run it, play it...
But although I own every WoTC 4e product in print, my DDI subscription is getting cancelled come the new year if the Character Builder doesnt include all the Essentials classes, the new Monster Builder is as big a step down as was the new CB, and/or the Trevor update from the 4th is the last word we hear about DDI from WoTC.
I love the game, but I am being run off by the implementation of DDI features. Six weeks to get the CB caught up on class choices, Monster Builder remaining at least as useful as it currently is, and failing all that to at least communicate to us whats going on ...
I am running out of energy to defend the company that makes the game I love, and I am increasingly wondering why I should feel compelled to do so....
They are communicating and implementing, just not fast enough for you.
Considering this is a special time of the year (major snow in Seattle + several holidays), i would give them some slack.
The decision is up to you.
To be fair, people would be more likely to cut them some slack if they hadn't already screwed up a bit.
True, but i doubt they have a contract with the santas elves (and even those are probably working overtime already)
Its also the season of miracles, but peace on the foruns is out the window, wont even talk about the world.
To be fair, people would be more likely to cut them some slack if they hadn't already screwed up a bit.
It might be more accurate to say, if they hadn't already screwed up alot, and not delivered on many things they said we'd have. At this point I think they are fully out of slack. I cancelled my account when the new CB debuted in all it's craptastic glory and I'll re-evaluate again in a couple months and see if it's worth my money to come back to insider. It won't stop me from gettng their books and won't stop me from playing but for now I'm not going to have insider at all.
The WotC offices are closed the week between Xmas and New Years. It happens every year.
Actually the title of this thread should probably read "Dec 24th will tell the tale."
The WotC offices are closed the week between Xmas and New Years. It happens every year.
December 21st is actually the key date, as it is the last Tuesday before Christmas. If Wizards has not put out a Character Builder update by close of business that day, I wouldn't hold my breath for another update this year. I really doubt that they would throw up an update as they head out the door on Christmas Eve.
The news.
They are communicating and implementing, just not fast enough for you.
Considering this is a special time of the year (major snow in Seattle + several holidays), i would give them some slack.
The decision is up to you.
Problem is, many of us have given them miles of slack already, but they keep on tugging at the rope. They're gonna eventually hang themselves, probably sooner than later.
I am not interested in virtual junk that can only be accessed online. I want the actual products & resources that I can own (including PDFs saved on flash drives) & take with me anywhere whether there is internet available or not.
I first started playing D&D in 1982, and loved each new iteration of the game than the previous one.
For example, 4ed is my favorite RPG baby, love it run it, play it...
But although I own every WoTC 4e product in print, my DDI subscription is getting cancelled come the new year if the Character Builder doesnt include all the Essentials classes, the new Monster Builder is as big a step down as was the new CB, and/or the Trevor update from the 4th is the last word we hear about DDI from WoTC.
I love the game, but I am being run off by the implementation of DDI features. Six weeks to get the CB caught up on class choices, Monster Builder remaining at least as useful as it currently is, and failing all that to at least communicate to us whats going on ...
I am running out of energy to defend the company that makes the game I love, and I am increasingly wondering why I should feel compelled to do so....
You shouldn't feel compelled to defend them. Quite frankly, they don't deserve it. They probably don't even deserve your business.
You shouldn't feel compelled to defend them. Quite frankly, they don't deserve it. They probably don't even deserve your business.
I know this may be hard for you to grasp, but not everyone is as angry and upset as you are. Frankly it saddens me that so many are (3 months later) still screaming bloody murder. To me, the reason people are so angry is that they want to keep buying WotC products and support the game they love, but on the other hand feel they've been scr*wed. Unfortunately, such expressions are barely useful because for the most part WotC is ignoring them so all they end up doing is riling up those that are still supporting the product and WotC. This of course invariably gets them called Fan-boys and other more derogatory terms for daring to contradict the outrage.
Cancel, walk away quietly and don't look back. There are far better things to spend your time doing.
Cancel, walk away quietly and don't look back. There are far better things to spend your time doing.
I will never "walk away" from roleplaying - it has been a satisfying pursuit for over half my life. I have no wish to walk away from D&D 4E - it is a sound RPG that gives an excellent game for it's own particular style of play.
It's a shame - WotC can do so well producing a pen & paper roleplaying game, and yet so spectacularly fails to provide quality digital support products and services. This is a field of support the game could and should benefit from hugely, but the people with the capability to produce truly oustanding digital support either won't or somehow can't.
The existence and output of CBLoader has shown me that the CBC was a well designed, flexible tool well capable of covering all the things the fans wanted/requested of it. But, instead, we get a service I have ceased to subscribe to, and have no intention of subscribing to again unless the digital business policy, or whatever it is that is preventing what are clearly a capable production team releasing something I actually think fulfills the potential, is changed.
Asking me to walk away from RPGs or even D&D is unreasonable; asking me to walk away from DDI is fine (and done). Asking me to pretend I'm happy about it just ain't gonna have any effect - sorry ;)
I don't need the character builder or monster builder to do what I have been doing for years with a pen and paper. In fact over the past few months, I've already been making do with my books for a while now without the compendium/monster builder anyway. The excercise just proved to me I no longer needed them.
I know this may be hard for you to grasp, but not everyone is as angry and upset as you are. Frankly it saddens me that so many are (3 months later) still screaming bloody murder.
There really isn't anyone "screaming bloody murder." They are complaining about what they feel is an inferior product offering. That is one of the reasons that Wizards has provided open forums: so people can express their opinions on their product.
Cancel, walk away quietly and don't look back. There are far better things to spend your time doing.
The same could be said to you if you don't want to read the complaints. Walk away quietly and don't look at them. There are far better things to spend your time doing.
But hey, people are well within their right to spend their time as they see fit for themselves, whether it is complaining about the product or complaining about the complainers.
I don't expect wizards to care, but I do want them to know why they lost at least this customer.
I would like to point out that it is currently the holiday season.
I have time to make complaints. This was unarguably the worst time for Wizards to have given me the final straw that confirmed my subscription lapse to be the right one.
I would be more impressed if you didn't have the time, but took the time to post your concerns.
Just not pay for DDI.
Edit: In fairness though, one thing could save my subscription. If the Executioner is good I *might* resub for a few months. But only if it is good and not to the horrible standard of the incomplete 393 issue Executioner. I do not expect it to be good though.
Cancel, walk away quietly and don't look back. There are far better things to spend your time doing.
I will never "walk away" from roleplaying - it has been a satisfying pursuit for over half my life. I have no wish to walk away from D&D 4E - it is a sound RPG that gives an excellent game for it's own particular style of play.
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Asking me to walk away from RPGs or even D&D is unreasonable; asking me to walk away from DDI is fine (and done). Asking me to pretend I'm happy about it just ain't gonna have any effect - sorry ;)
My apologies for not being clear. I was specifically talking about DDI and nothing else. Don't support specific products that are inferior or don't meet with your approval.