Default 4e Character Sheet - Any updates?

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#1

beriothen

Jul 15, 2011 10:13:41
Hello everyone, 

I read in the Current Issues of the Character Builder that they want to add more Character Sheets. I wanted to know if they gave any clues or news about when they we're going to add the default 4e CS that came with the PHB's. As much as the other ones are OK, I still prefer the old style for the sheets. 

Thanks! 
#2

Plaguescarred1

Jul 16, 2011 1:01:58
Last we know they were working on it. The Original 4E Character Sheet has been requested since the OCB went live. Yeah it would be cool to have an update on this from Steve or Trevor...

Gentlemen ? 


#3

dndmaster1975

Jul 16, 2011 8:59:32
agreed.  I can't stand the new sheet layouts.
#4

nshoe

Jul 19, 2011 21:36:52
At this point I'd almost have to say it is becoming obvious that either they are drastically understaffed for the things they are trying to do or they really don't care in the slightest what their customers want.

We are over 8 months since the new Character builder was unveiled, and the character sheet was one of the first complaints about the new builder.

I find it hard to believe that they could not have found the time to fix this issue if they actually cared to. Of course they refuse to come out and say that they are not going todo it because that would upset people - so they just stay silent and tell us thay are working on things (but won't tell us what they are actually working on)
#5

Darthbaggins

Jul 20, 2011 5:06:43

I used to subscribe to DDi just for the character builder but the new builder is so bad, slow, power hungry and limited that I cancelled my subscription.

I believe one of the reasons to change it was to use Silverlight so Ipads and Macs could use it, I have heard from reliable sources that Microsoft are scrapping Silverlight.


Where does that leave us?   

#6

sromander

Jul 21, 2011 11:15:47

I used to subscribe to DDi just for the character builder but the new builder is so bad, slow, power hungry and limited that I cancelled my subscription.

I believe one of the reasons to change it was to use Silverlight so Ipads and Macs could use it, I have heard from reliable sources that Microsoft are scrapping Silverlight.


Where does that leave us?   


Silverlight is not going away.
#7

Darthbaggins

Jul 21, 2011 11:32:38
I am no expert on the subject but one of my group is the manager of a PC World and it was him that said that Silverlight has not been supported by Microsoft for some time and it's future is bleak as newer technology is released.


I don't actually care anymore as I do not subscribe to insider any more and use the offline tools.     
#8

RedSiegfried

Jul 21, 2011 14:55:59
The manager dude is wrong.  I'm no expert on the subject either but a look at Microsoft's support site for Silverlight or even the Wikipedia article on Silverlight would reveal that it is not on its way out any time soon and is still fully supported by Microsoft.
#9

dndmaster1975

Jul 23, 2011 20:39:55
Still wondering if there is any word from WotC about this issue - I am not here to debate the support of Silverlight either way - I want the original character sheet that was promised several months ago, alluded to in ddi update posts in the spring but received no real indication of its adoption.  Seriously, how about an update from those that actually work for the company??
#10

vanya

Jul 25, 2011 17:05:34
The manager dude is wrong.  I'm no expert on the subject either but a look at Microsoft's support site for Silverlight or even the Wikipedia article on Silverlight would reveal that it is not on its way out any time soon and is still fully supported by Microsoft.



That's actually not entirely true. While microsoft still fully supports Silverlight, windows 8 is going to be pushing HTML 5 much more than silverlight. Do a search on Google for Silverlight Windows 8, and you find a bunch of articles about how Silverlight is in a really akward place with HTML 5 getting pushed hard for Windows 8, and a lot of forum posts on the silverlight forums asking Microsoft for clarifaction on where Silverlight stands in windows 8. It's looking more and more like Silverlight is going to be for WP7, and not as supported on the desktop interface.
#11

RedSiegfried

Jul 30, 2011 7:50:09

If someone had a beta of 64 bit Win8 running on a machine right now and was using the CB on it they could demonstrate that there's nothing to worry about with Win8 and Silverlight.  Too bad nobody has that running on a computer sitting right next to them at this moment.  I don't know anybody else who does and I certainly wouldn't know where to find such a thing.  ;)

For myself, I don't see any need to move off of Win7 anytime in the near future and Silverlight works fine on Win7, of course.  I'll probably get it the next time I get a new computer in the next few years, just because it will probably be packaged with it.

Of course nobody knows what the future will hold but my money says not be concerned.  If you think about it, yanking the Silverlight rug out from under users in the short term would be a monumentally bad decision when the latest version of SL is due out in a few months, and MS isn't that stupid.  As for HTML5, it's kinda hard to support HTML5 when it hasn't been fully standardized yet.  That may not stop MS from creating their own implementation, but I haven't read anything indicating that they're going to do that yet, and that would also be a bad decision.  Not that they haven't done something like that before.

#12

RedSiegfried

Jul 30, 2011 7:59:21
And yeah, I still want the Classic character sheet.  I've grown used to the new style sheet and I like it, but my main beef with it is that I want to see the math.  The old sheet was pretty good for that.
#13

pruano

Aug 01, 2011 12:11:23
One more request for updates on this issue.
#14

nshoe

Aug 02, 2011 22:23:42
One more request for updates on this issue.



Good luck on that, I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.

#15

crimsonsky

Aug 03, 2011 8:11:57
I don't mind the sheet so much, I actually like the essential style sheet.  What I really loathe however is the new power card format.  I like to print my character sheets in draft mode to save ink, but the magic item card titles are unreadable as there isn't enough contrast between the white text and the yellow background.  The old power cards printed fine and I thought were much easier to read.

If we can't have the old power cards back any time soon, can we at least make the title text on the magic item cards black?
#16

pruano

Aug 03, 2011 9:36:47
One more request for updates on this issue.



Good luck on that, I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.




Unfortunately i know you are right about that; but miracles do happen, hoping if we bug then enough, they will Undecided

#17

Astromath

Aug 03, 2011 13:44:33
Here's a question:  in the grab bag for the Neverwinter Game Day the players get is a blank Neverwinter-themed character sheet (haven't seen one yet).  Will they be implementing that?
#18

goliath89

Aug 07, 2011 0:33:34
Here's a question:  in the grab bag for the Neverwinter Game Day the players get is a blank Neverwinter-themed character sheet (haven't seen one yet).  Will they be implementing that?





I imagine they'd be adding that when the Neverwinter book comes out officially.  Though, honestly, that seem rediculous considering how the new Encounters season (which is set in Neverwinter) starts this Wednesday, and we need that kind of info to make proper characters. I don't know about the other theme cards that they handed out, but the Harper Agent theme card only has the Lliira's Grace Encounter Utility listed on the Harper Pin, not even mentioning that it's also supposed to grant two other blessings.

#19

Grazel

Aug 09, 2011 12:45:55
Yeah the NW char sheet was interesting but lacking in some features, it was mostly a prettied-up background variant of the essentials sheet. As for the theme cards only the Harper Agent had that silly restriction since the other themes have only a fixed feature not a 'choose one of 3 and get the other 2 as you level'. Luckily I had the campaign book the night before so made my Harper with a different blessing instead of the one listed on the card. At least they had all 13 themes as cards.


As for the char sheets, while I'd like the classic sheet available (or preferably the customizable ones from the LCB including landscape layout) at least I prefer the 'character builder' sheet to be a bit better than the 'essentials' layout.