i try rightclik and stupid silverligt is all that comes up
i have pay for this site 1 yea more now and then they go chage the program that wass working and STILL NO NEW PROGRAMS IN ADVENTURE TOOLS
like the told we get soon and that wass over 2½ yea ago now
i am so pissed at WIZARDS OF THE COAST or who ever do this and say that we get more even put videos out and still nothing
and still same crap in monsterbuilder that you cant save the holding pens monster so if you have more then 1 campain going you have to redo holding pen all the time
if i sound mad i am Fourios and wery pissed that i spent money on this side for 1 more yea . i wass told in mail keep a sharp eye on GENCON for news about Tools in DDI.
WHAT A ****ING JOKE
i have many times try to send calm mail to get a anserv or post on forum but now i just gave up being nice
WIZARDS GET TO WORK ON THE PROGRAMS YOU TOLD ALL WE GOING TO GET LASY FOOLS. then again who is the fool me or them i pay for 1 more year and that most meen i am a FOOL
to all the rest out there that feel same way as me plz let WIZARS know that
Got into the MarketPlace [sic] and look on the left-hand side. There's a column of buttons. The bottom one says 'Sell items'. Click it. You will have the options for selling your items for 20, 50 and 100% of the price, or deleting them.
It's not intuitive by any stretch of the imagination, but it's not worth giving yourself a coronary over. Be calm.
new cb is so slow i cant even use it, takes foreeeeevvvveeeerrrr just putting ability scores in. absolutely hate the entire thing, from interface to performance.
Actually, it is damn annoying and I cursed very loudly at my computer for hours before I figured it out, so I can empathize with the rage. There is also the fact that so much is off with the new CB, that it is impossible to know whether something is actually not working or if you are doing it wrong.
Not sure that raging this hard over a game is the best way to go about it.
I mean, it's an issue I ran into too. I couldn't figure out how to get rid of items. You know what I did? I found the answer on the message boards. I also didn't burst a blood vessel doing it. It's not worth the lost years of your life to live that way man. Take a note from the duck: water just slides of that little guy's back.
Not sure that raging this hard over a game is the best way to go about it.
I mean, it's an issue I ran into too. I couldn't figure out how to get rid of items. You know what I did? I found the answer on the message boards. I also didn't burst a blood vessel doing it. It's not worth the lost years of your life to live that way man. Take a note from the duck: water just slides of that little guy's back.
You forget that part of the reason D&D remains so popular is the near-fanatical devotion by many of its fans, and that this type of personality doesn't necessarily mitigate its responses on message boards, especially when the development team in charge of updating these beloved tools rips from their hands something useful, replacing it with a program that can only function as a very basic and bug-filled character generator - a significant downgrade from a suddenly unsupported tool that was just starting to be quite good...at least in hindsight!
It's just that the pure, unadulterated vitriol I have to wade through to get anything useful out of this forum is downright depressing so I try to help people out by offering some perspective or whatever.
Are you seriously arguing against the argument: "Chill it's a game"? I get that people are passionate about it and that's fine I guess. I'd question if the level of passion is healthy but whatevs I'm not your psychologist.
It's just that the pure, unadulterated vitriol I have to wade through to get anything useful out of this forum is downright depressing so I try to help people out by offering some perspective or whatever.
We all know that passionate people are not always tactful people. That having been said, it does appear that the overwhelming hyperbolic response by forum members has served its purpose by giving WotC a very clear message of its customers' discontent. Any less of a response may have given WotC the impression that "we just have a few bugs to fix in good time to make everyone happy" or that "there were so many measured, constructive comments that we must have succeeded in charging more money for less functionality, although we still have a little work to do."
While I agree that critics should always strive to present their concerns constructively, calmly, and succinctly, there is some advantage to bombarding a business with a plethora of painful protests when such company charges more money while delivering a less-functional product (to which I'm referring to the $12 increase in the annual DDI subscription price, and then the killing of the offline CB which is then replaced with a crippled CB that can't be accessed unless one is online).
While WotC has recently been communicating a little more (mostly Trevor, although Paolo appeared twice to tell everyone that the recent CB update which coincided with a Silverlight update was only a stability patch, and there's that new crazy_monkey guy who's apparently reading all our posts and bringing them to WotC developers), we still haven't been told why one month later not a single data-related bug has been fixed. Does it really take a month to get the Gem of Colloquy to give an additional language, or other such known issues? And if it really does, then someone from WotC should be telling its customers why, so that we all know what to expect rather than swimming around in an ever-more frustrating void of knowledge.
there is some advantage to bombarding a business with a plethora of painful protests when such company charges more money while delivering a less-functional product
This phenomenon is colloquially known as "the squeaky wheel" and it's the thing that annoys me the most about consumer culture. Why should someone get their wants/needs met before mine just because they bother to be rude about it? If everyone were shouting, nothing would get done.
It's about priority, though. It does take that long to fix these problems because everyone is fixing other problems that have priority.
Ahh, but this is where the marketing and public relations aspect of doing business comes into play. Think of how effectively WotC would have changed its more-critical customers' impressions if it had quickly fixed a bunch of the smaller, easier-to-fix data-related bugs right out of the gate. Not only would customers have seen substantive repairs that positively affect the usefulness of the new CB, WotC would also have been demonstrating its responsiveness to customer concerns. Then, after this quickie update placated the fuming masses, WotC could return to working on the less-obvious higher priorities such as stability fixes, and also the more-involved tasks like fixing the marketplace.
As it is, I struggle to believe anything substantial is actually happening behind-the-scenes.
As it is, I struggle to believe anything substantial is actually happening behind-the-scenes.
They said stability was there top prioity.
They just fixed that yesterday (and so far, it's faster and hasn't crashed), so it's likely they'll get on the small/quick stuff next. Though with the hollidays, i don't expect anything till early january.
Though i agree that it's less funtional then before, with the exception of feat/item searching.
The difficulty with what they've done is that the fix, if it works right, is invisible. When a fix stops something breaking so often, people don't really notice it, especially when the breaking has become less frequent anyway. What they need SO badly is to do SOMETHING, ANYTHING that is visible. Update the Known Issues List or the FAQ (ESPECIALLY the KIL, which has been waiting for attention since release, and AsmodeusLore's hard work is going wasted at the moment). Fixing inherent bonuses, or holy symbol slots, or getting multiple weapons to calculate, or adding any of the MANY missing items and consumables in the shop. Making mouse scrolling work for people not in Internet Exploder.
Anything that a consumer can actually see, and say 'yes, that's a fix, clearly the money I am paying is going towards something actually happening'. At this point, they need that kind of good publicity.
And i disagree with the AsmodeusLore's work going to waste, we may not see it, but i'm SURE they did. And honestly i'd rather them work on a solutiion then work on a list of problems.
True, they could definatly use some good publicity for it right now. Though i, for one, noticed the speed increase, which makes the builder alot more useable IMO. Bugs didn't matter if was slower then doing it by hand.
And i disagree with the AsmodeusLore's work going to waste, we may not see it, but i'm SURE they did. And honestly i'd rather them work on a solutiion then work on a list of problems.
Why are you sure?
What actual evidence is there that ANYONE is paying any actual attention to our feedback?
Do you have any idea how fast you can update a known issues list if you are KEEPING a list of known issues as part of your development cycle? And if they are NOT keeping such a list then they ARE wasting all efforts made to make information available for such a list. Both the efforts made by reporting bugs (they have buttons on all their products to report bugs, they ask us to report bugs) and the effort made on the boards are most definitely wasted if they don't go into a list of "needs to be fixed" or "known complaints" or whatever.
You have any one developer or a good administrative assistant or a knowledgable customer service rep spend an absolute maximum of half a day on it and that list can be edited into a releasable from. This isn't a major effort.
And look what you gain! Not just goodwill, but you specifically ASK people to check the known issues prior to reporting so that they won't double report. Having them check against a CURRENT list makes this step actually useful, so they're not wasting our time and have to waste far less of theirs responding to the 2,000th itteration of the same complaint.
The failure to update known issues is a red flag that they're not at all interested in any form of communication with the users. Incoming or outgoing. If they cared about what we say they'd update the list just to limit the number of duplicate complaints and issues. If they cared to tell us anything they'd update the list and calendars because those are the most basic forms of communication with the users.
Why are you sure?
Cause they've said as much.
What actual evidence is there that ANYONE is paying any actual attention to our feedback?
Far more evidence then saying noone is paying attention.
Just because you don't notice, doesn't mean there's not a WoTC ninja behind you
.See, this sort of bile-spewing ragemonkeyism makes me want to stop helping people.
Got into the MarketPlace [sic] and look on the left-hand side. There's a column of buttons. The bottom one says 'Sell items'. Click it. You will have the options for selling your items for 20, 50 and 100% of the price, or deleting them.
It's not intuitive by any stretch of the imagination, but it's not worth giving yourself a coronary over. Be calm.
Thank you. I'd lost track of that and was looking for it earlier today.
