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Dimensional Thunder Question

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#1
Myztek
Sep 29, 2008 17:05:53 In the Swordmage Article we see a new 1st level Daily for the Swordmage called Dimensional Thunder. The power lists (in order):

A target (single creature)
The attack (attribute versus defense)
An effect (teleportation)
Hit (the damage dealt)
Another effect (an effect applied to adjacent enemies)

How is this resolved?

Do I do them in the order listed? If so, do I still need to be adjacent to the initial target after the teleport to damage them on a hit? Or can I declare the target, deal the damage, then teleport, then impart an effect on adjacent enemies?
#2
kitrack
Sep 29, 2008 21:16:24
How is this resolved?

In my campaign, I made the ruling that it happens in the order listed:
Teleport
Attack
Ongoing damage

It's only been one session, but the Player was generally okay with it.
#3
ppaladin123
Sep 30, 2008 0:14:04
In my campaign, I made the ruling that it happens in the order listed:
Teleport
Attack
Ongoing damage

It's only been one session, but the Player was generally okay with it.

I am pretty sure this is what they intended based on the accompanying fluff text.
#4
darkdiashi
Nov 14, 2008 11:55:17 I forget the fluff text but isn't the point of demensional thuder to be thunder? Thunder is sound and force (not the damage type, literal force like vibrations), both of which can hit after a teleportation (the Demensional aspect of the move) because they result from the teleportation itself. So the hit could very likely be deliberatly designed to go after the teleport. It's similar to the Slashing Wake Path Feature for the Feytouched Warlock(pg141).

Just my interpretations :D
#5
darkdiashi
Dec 04, 2008 10:33:14 Got the fluff text now. I vote that we go with the fluff text. It would appear to be after the teleport. Seems a little awkward though.
#6
kouk
Dec 04, 2008 21:39:04 It is awkwardly written, but I also go with the "Teleport, Attack, Ongoing Damage" interpretation.
#7
sar
Dec 09, 2008 9:51:12
It is awkwardly written, but I also go with the "Teleport, Attack, Ongoing Damage" interpretation.

I agree, this is how I've been playing this attack. And starting with a teleport at the beginning of an attack is very handy...

Sar
#8
Mirtek
Dec 11, 2008 14:26:41 1. Attack target that is adjacent
2. teleport
3. deal 5 ongoing damage to all enemies adjacent to your new location (original target may or may not be among them)

or

1. teleport
2. deal 5 ongoing damage to all adjacent enemies
2. Attack target that is adjacent

I have seen both at different tables. I have also seen swordmages telporting into the same square from which they started (basically telport 0) because they liked their current position

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 Myztek Sep 29, 2008 17:05:53	In the Swordmage Article we see a new 1st level Daily for the Swordmage called Dimensional Thunder. The power lists (in order): A target (single creature) The attack (attribute versus defense) An effect (teleportation) Hit (the damage dealt) Another effect (an effect applied to adjacent enemies) How is this resolved? Do I do them in the order listed? If so, do I still need to be adjacent to the initial target after the teleport to damage them on a hit? Or can I declare the target, deal the damage, then teleport, then impart an effect on adjacent enemies?
#2 kitrack Sep 29, 2008 21:16:24	How is this resolved? In my campaign, I made the ruling that it happens in the order listed: Teleport Attack Ongoing damage It's only been one session, but the Player was generally okay with it.
#3 ppaladin123 Sep 30, 2008 0:14:04	In my campaign, I made the ruling that it happens in the order listed: Teleport Attack Ongoing damage It's only been one session, but the Player was generally okay with it. I am pretty sure this is what they intended based on the accompanying fluff text.
#4 darkdiashi Nov 14, 2008 11:55:17	I forget the fluff text but isn't the point of demensional thuder to be thunder? Thunder is sound and force (not the damage type, literal force like vibrations), both of which can hit after a teleportation (the Demensional aspect of the move) because they result from the teleportation itself. So the hit could very likely be deliberatly designed to go after the teleport. It's similar to the Slashing Wake Path Feature for the Feytouched Warlock(pg141). Just my interpretations :D
#5 darkdiashi Dec 04, 2008 10:33:14	Got the fluff text now. I vote that we go with the fluff text. It would appear to be after the teleport. Seems a little awkward though.
#6 kouk Dec 04, 2008 21:39:04	It is awkwardly written, but I also go with the "Teleport, Attack, Ongoing Damage" interpretation.
#7 sar Dec 09, 2008 9:51:12	It is awkwardly written, but I also go with the "Teleport, Attack, Ongoing Damage" interpretation. I agree, this is how I've been playing this attack. And starting with a teleport at the beginning of an attack is very handy... Sar
#8 Mirtek Dec 11, 2008 14:26:41	1. Attack target that is adjacent 2. teleport 3. deal 5 ongoing damage to all enemies adjacent to your new location (original target may or may not be among them) or 1. teleport 2. deal 5 ongoing damage to all adjacent enemies 2. Attack target that is adjacent I have seen both at different tables. I have also seen swordmages telporting into the same square from which they started (basically telport 0) because they liked their current position