When I start CB, it prompts me to get an update. But that panel asks me for the D&DI membership information. So I uninstalled CB, re-downloaded it, and re-installed it. Apparently, I still have the old version.
Is this normal? If so, how do you expect people to evaluate CB if you only let them try an old, buggy version?
(Based on other forum posts, however, it appears that CB is still very buggy. You guys really should have made this a web application.)
I'm not a D&D Insider subscriber. I will probably subscribe in order to get access to the full version of CB, but only after all the bugs I've reported have been fixed.
When I start CB, it prompts me to get an update. But that panel asks me for the D&DI membership information. So I uninstalled CB, re-downloaded it, and re-installed it. Apparently, I still have the old version.
Is this normal? If so, how do you expect people to evaluate CB if you only let them try an old, buggy version?
(Based on other forum posts, however, it appears that CB is still very buggy. You guys really should have made this a web application.)
you need a subscription to get new data for the CB.
as for old buggy version? there were a few bugs but it has worked fine since i went live.
you need a subscription to get new data for the CB.
Then how do I get all of the latest bug fixes?
If you subscribe and get the latest update, it will include both data update and the bug fixes we have done since the full release was done.
At that stage, the demo version do not get updates, and we have no short term plans to do so.
If you subscribe and get the latest update, it will include both data update and the bug fixes we have done since the full release was done.
But how do I know whether I should subscribe if I can't determine whether the bugs have been fixed or not?
And why in the world would you intentionally demonstrate a buggy product to potential customers?
In this case, WotC felt that the bugs were not serious enough.
*shrug*
I'm a DDI subscriber, and even though most bugs have been fixed, there are still a few, and there may always be some bugs, as the application is updated monthly. Hopefully, not the same nagging bugs, but there is a potential of getting bugs for a while.
I agree that it would be perfect IF WotC would provide an updated BETA version, but it is a BETA version after all.
No, it's not a beta. It's a demo. It clearly says so on the page:
[INDENT]You can still demo the Character Builder to create characters from levels 1 to 3. [/INDENT]
In fact, the same page references the beta as a previous version of this code:
[INDENT]If you have previously been using the Beta, we recommend that you first uninstall it.[/INDENT]
So I'm not talking about some beta version of the code that supposed to have bugs. I'm talking about evaluating the current release version of the code to see if it's usable for me. Before the update last week, I was able to do that. I cannot any more. This is what I'm complaining about.
The current software release model used across the entire industry, from gaming to operating systems to financial software, is to ship what works, mostly, and then patch it. Try playing WoW some time... you'll spend your first five or six hours downloading patches and updates. For Diablo II, they had the first patch available for download before the game was even released. And, if you recall, what you downloaded a month or two ago was a beta test. Which means, they expected there to be bugs in it and expected people to report them to them so they could fix the important ones before they released the full version. Any update from this point forward is expected to provide a better application, with the introduction of as few additional bugs as possible, but more bugs are to be expected, as that is the nature of the software industry today.
Fair, but he is referring to the fact that you have to be a subscriber to get the bug fixes, not that they should have released a perfect product. Actually the opposite, he wants them to release updated versions for the demo version. None of the new content, no more levels, etc. just bug fixes.
I can understand limiting it to only the first 3 levels, but no bug fixes? No wizard power fix that was introduced between the beta and the initial release? Perhaps this is more of a sign of how the program was built. Is there no way of just releasing the bug fixes without releasing the new content?
Though this gets onto my other opinion, the subscription covers all insider stuff. What if I only want the character builder? Seems I can't just pay for that at a reduced cost... I don't want to pay for something I'm not going to use, and I'm not a GM, so why pay the subscription?