Dragon 383: Winning Races: Humans

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#1

theironmonkey

Jan 22, 2010 1:25:34
I'm confused by the feat: Skill Swap, it states that you can switch out your bonus at-will power for another and that you can retrain this feat to change the power again.  Why would I ever do this as opposed to just retraining the the at-will in question when I level?  Why would i waste a feat on something i can do for free?  Or am I missing something?
#2

salla

Jan 22, 2010 1:51:57
I'm confused by the feat: Skill Swap, it states that you can switch out your bonus at-will power for another and that you can retrain this feat to change the power again.  Why would I ever do this as opposed to just retraining the the at-will in question when I level?  Why would i waste a feat on something i can do for free?  Or am I missing something?



Skill Swap lets you trade your bonus human at-will for a skill power, which is a utility power of L2 or higher.  Under ordinary circumstances, you could only retrain one at-will attack into another at-will attack.

Basically, in exchange for losing your bonus at-will attack, you can have any skill power of your level or lower that you qualify for with skill training.
#3

theironmonkey

Jan 22, 2010 2:07:15
Ahh I assumed it had to be another at-will but after reading it again your right.  Ok makes much more sense now.  Thanks.
#4

DanTracker

Jan 22, 2010 3:27:40
loved the article! it is pretty neat that both lines lacked an entry feat. that is a nice way to introduce the human feats. really good fluff support in the boni offered byt the feats. i did particularly like the forester's axe. somewhat situational, but if the DM likes to keep the party in the woods, theat could be a great tool.
#5

dustmanexe

Jan 22, 2010 5:45:35
Is it possible that this article means to refer to Asmodeus rather than Bane? I thought Asmodeus was the one who is the the god of tyranny and civilization.

edit: Although, I see that the 372 Deities & Demigods article on Bane does use him in the manner reflected in this article.
#6

obsidius

Jan 22, 2010 7:23:15
I'm a little worried / confused by some of the magic items in this article. They seem to say that you get +2 magic items at level 2 or 4. Surely this is a mistake. When a basic +2 axe is level 6, having a +2 axe at level 2 that has a useful power strikes me as being overpowered. I thought it was a typo, but then saw that the other two items have +2 bonuses at level 4. So why buy a basic +2, when the +2 with powers is cheaper? I hope Wizards aren't succumbing to power creep, or we'll soon be seeing starting characters carrying +5 holy avengers that they bought with pocket change.
#7

celticmutt

Jan 22, 2010 9:34:56
Is it possible that this article means to refer to Asmodeus rather than Bane? I thought Asmodeus was the one who is the the god of tyranny and civilization.

edit: Although, I see that the 372 Deities & Demigods article on Bane does use him in the manner reflected in this article.


Bane's always been a god of tyranny, whether the FR or PoL version.
#8

theoucrew

Jan 22, 2010 10:54:23
I really like these feats.  My human PC needs to level a few times so he can start nabbing them.
#9

307Ale

Jan 22, 2010 13:23:12
I'm a little worried / confused by some of the magic items in this article. They seem to say that you get +2 magic items at level 2 or 4. Surely this is a mistake. When a basic +2 axe is level 6, having a +2 axe at level 2 that has a useful power strikes me as being overpowered. I thought it was a typo, but then saw that the other two items have +2 bonuses at level 4. So why buy a basic +2, when the +2 with powers is cheaper? I hope Wizards aren't succumbing to power creep, or we'll soon be seeing starting characters carrying +5 holy avengers that they bought with pocket change.


I'm pretty sure those were just typos, because if they weren't then the items are badly broken.  There's also an editing error with the title bars after the first page.  They say "The Forgeborn", which was an acticle from several weeks ago.  The editor really should have caught those.
#10

smugmug

Jan 22, 2010 14:06:01

Bane's always been a god of tyranny, whether the FR or PoL version.



Well, the FR Bane has the Tyranny Domain, while the PoL doesn't. Actually the only Domain they both share is the War Domain.


There's also an editing error with the title bars after the first page.  They say "The Forgeborn", which was an acticle from several weeks ago.  The editor really should have caught those.



My guess would be that the Artificer article got replaced by the Humans article, because the former wasn't ready to be published, while the latter only needed to be edited, which they didn't do (properly) in their haste. Hopefully they will fix this in the future.
#11

salla

Jan 22, 2010 14:35:34
I'm a little worried / confused by some of the magic items in this article. They seem to say that you get +2 magic items at level 2 or 4. Surely this is a mistake. When a basic +2 axe is level 6, having a +2 axe at level 2 that has a useful power strikes me as being overpowered. I thought it was a typo, but then saw that the other two items have +2 bonuses at level 4. So why buy a basic +2, when the +2 with powers is cheaper? I hope Wizards aren't succumbing to power creep, or we'll soon be seeing starting characters carrying +5 holy avengers that they bought with pocket change.



Yes, those are definitely typos.  Items level 1-5 are always +1s, 6-10 is +2s, and so forth.  Just bump everything down a plus on those two items.
#12

andurion

Jan 22, 2010 22:37:42
Is it possible that this article means to refer to Asmodeus rather than Bane? I thought Asmodeus was the one who is the the god of tyranny and civilization.


That was the first thing I thought of, too.

edit: Although, I see that the 372 Deities & Demigods article on Bane does use him in the manner reflected in this article.


PoL Bane does  have a lot to do with subjugation, which isn't too far from tyranny.  But it does make me wonder how they'll differentiate Bane and Asmodeus in the future.  There's a lot of overlap in themes, at least to me.

#13

Marandahir

Jan 24, 2010 0:02:08
Is it possible that this article means to refer to Asmodeus rather than Bane? I thought Asmodeus was the one who is the the god of tyranny and civilization.


That was the first thing I thought of, too.

edit: Although, I see that the 372 Deities & Demigods article on Bane does use him in the manner reflected in this article.


PoL Bane does  have a lot to do with subjugation, which isn't too far from tyranny.  But it does make me wonder how they'll differentiate Bane and Asmodeus in the future.  There's a lot of overlap in themes, at least to me.




I believe you're confusing the two Banes.  WotC wanted to make it clear that FR Bane is a different figure from PoL Bane.  PoL Bane is Mars IN SPACE!!! (or, er, the Astral Sea…).
#14

andurion

Jan 25, 2010 10:05:39
I believe you're confusing the two Banes.  WotC wanted to make it clear that FR Bane is a different figure from PoL Bane.  PoL Bane is Mars IN SPACE!!! (or, er, the Astral Sea…).


Oh, I agree.  However, the WR: Humans article has a few passages that seem to indicate PoL Bane is a god of tyranny.  And while conquest, subjugation, and the chain of command (these all seem to be in Bane's purview, IMO) can be tyrannical, it just seems like it's bleeding over into Asmodeus' or FR Bane's territory when the Scepter of Bane flavor text refers to PoL Bane as "Lord of Tyrants."

I mean, if they changed the flavor text of the Scepter to "This powerful scepter, tipped with the symbol of the Lord of Conquest, is both a vicious weapon and a powerful implement," that would be better IMO.  

At the end of the day, though, it's not that big of a deal.