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Dungeon and Dragon magazine sub coming to your door?

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#1
triga
May 12, 2010 13:27:52 Would any one be willing to pay more for the subscription to dragon and dungeon magazines if they actually came to your door in printed form? I, personally would love this. it would givem me great BR reading. I once had a subscription to a magazine for an mmo called eve online. that magazine was quarterly and it was super high quality. the artwork was stupendous. i think Dragon adn Dungeon magazine could be the same way.

Thoughts?
#2
Shemeska_the_Marauder
May 12, 2010 18:18:18 I subscribed when they were actually still printed magazines. I don't care to subscribe to an e-zine (and of course I don't play 4e, so even if WotC put them back in print it wouldn't affect me).

Ending the print run of Dragon and Dungeon was one of the bigger PR mistakes WotC ever made. The cancellation and move to e-zines seemed like a carrot to draw people to subscribe to the DDI (the biggest portions of which like the VTT, visualizer, etc never actually materialized), and without it being in printed form on magazine racks it lacks the ability to sell the game to people who aren't already playing or visiting the WotC page already. Plus the perception has become that rather than soliciting articles from people and serving as a training ground for new writing talent hoping to break into the industry, it seems like a house organ that only really operates internally and to a small number of freelancers. If that perception has changed in the past year I dunno, I don't particularly pay attention to the e-zines anymore after getting no responses to article pitches.
#3
Artifact
May 18, 2010 19:02:23 I'm not dissatisfied with the ezines; they are what they are and I don't mind paying for 'em (especially since the Character Builder is packed in with the subscription-- I love it). I'm definitely not a fan of the digital format but the content has been okay for the most part. I do wish there were more 'feature' articles and less 'power pack' articles sometimes but again, it is what it is ;). All in all, I'm okay with the way things are now.

The print mags were more my thing though. I used to enjoy collecting them, each and every month off of the newstand, never missed a single issue in over two hundred issues. The print mags were fun, where the ezines sometimes feel ho-hum to me. I may subscribe but don't consider myself a collector anymore.

Would I pay (more) for print mags again? You betcha. Is it ever gonna happen? Nope. From what I understand, it takes upwards of $1,000,000 to launch a magazine. Once they decided to cancel the print mags, that was it. They're digital now, for better or worse.
#4
Tharag_Bocc
May 19, 2010 18:47:27
I don't particularly pay attention to the e-zines anymore after getting no responses to article pitches.

Amen brother!

And yet here you both are posting on a section of the forums largely devoted to the discussion of the e-zines. Seem you still pay some amount of attention.

Anyway, I'm personally glad the for the e-zines. I never purchased them when they were printed (save a 3 month subscription that I purchased only so I could qualify to purchase an exclusive mini).

That said, I wouldn't have a problem if a printed option still existed for those that wanted it, but I'd be entirely uninterested. My shelf space is already crowded enough without having to find room for 24 magazines per year. Also, my more used books are already showing starting to get worn out, given the typical quality of a printed magazine many of those would be reduced to a pile of crumpled paper.

Really, if what you want is printed and bound copies of Dragon and Dungeon and if you are willing to pay an extra fee to get them, as suggested by the OP, then there are printing shops and local libraries were you can get that kind of stuff done.
#5
Johnathan_Vagabond
May 20, 2010 15:04:25 I remember as a young kid it was the printed magazines that got me into dungeons & dragons. Around the age of 13 I started going to Barnes & Noble once a month so I could read about all these cool adventures and characters (and the comic strips). I still look whistfully at the bottom shelf of the computer magazine rack where they kept them.

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#1 triga May 12, 2010 13:27:52	Would any one be willing to pay more for the subscription to dragon and dungeon magazines if they actually came to your door in printed form? I, personally would love this. it would givem me great BR reading. I once had a subscription to a magazine for an mmo called eve online. that magazine was quarterly and it was super high quality. the artwork was stupendous. i think Dragon adn Dungeon magazine could be the same way. Thoughts?
#2 Shemeska_the_Marauder May 12, 2010 18:18:18	I subscribed when they were actually still printed magazines. I don't care to subscribe to an e-zine (and of course I don't play 4e, so even if WotC put them back in print it wouldn't affect me). Ending the print run of Dragon and Dungeon was one of the bigger PR mistakes WotC ever made. The cancellation and move to e-zines seemed like a carrot to draw people to subscribe to the DDI (the biggest portions of which like the VTT, visualizer, etc never actually materialized), and without it being in printed form on magazine racks it lacks the ability to sell the game to people who aren't already playing or visiting the WotC page already. Plus the perception has become that rather than soliciting articles from people and serving as a training ground for new writing talent hoping to break into the industry, it seems like a house organ that only really operates internally and to a small number of freelancers. If that perception has changed in the past year I dunno, I don't particularly pay attention to the e-zines anymore after getting no responses to article pitches.
#3 Artifact May 18, 2010 19:02:23	I'm not dissatisfied with the ezines; they are what they are and I don't mind paying for 'em (especially since the Character Builder is packed in with the subscription-- I love it). I'm definitely not a fan of the digital format but the content has been okay for the most part. I do wish there were more 'feature' articles and less 'power pack' articles sometimes but again, it is what it is ;). All in all, I'm okay with the way things are now. The print mags were more my thing though. I used to enjoy collecting them, each and every month off of the newstand, never missed a single issue in over two hundred issues. The print mags were fun, where the ezines sometimes feel ho-hum to me. I may subscribe but don't consider myself a collector anymore. Would I pay (more) for print mags again? You betcha. Is it ever gonna happen? Nope. From what I understand, it takes upwards of $1,000,000 to launch a magazine. Once they decided to cancel the print mags, that was it. They're digital now, for better or worse.
#4 Tharag_Bocc May 19, 2010 18:47:27	I don't particularly pay attention to the e-zines anymore after getting no responses to article pitches. Amen brother! And yet here you both are posting on a section of the forums largely devoted to the discussion of the e-zines. Seem you still pay some amount of attention. Anyway, I'm personally glad the for the e-zines. I never purchased them when they were printed (save a 3 month subscription that I purchased only so I could qualify to purchase an exclusive mini). That said, I wouldn't have a problem if a printed option still existed for those that wanted it, but I'd be entirely uninterested. My shelf space is already crowded enough without having to find room for 24 magazines per year. Also, my more used books are already showing starting to get worn out, given the typical quality of a printed magazine many of those would be reduced to a pile of crumpled paper. Really, if what you want is printed and bound copies of Dragon and Dungeon and if you are willing to pay an extra fee to get them, as suggested by the OP, then there are printing shops and local libraries were you can get that kind of stuff done.
#5 Johnathan_Vagabond May 20, 2010 15:04:25	I remember as a young kid it was the printed magazines that got me into dungeons & dragons. Around the age of 13 I started going to Barnes & Noble once a month so I could read about all these cool adventures and characters (and the comic strips). I still look whistfully at the bottom shelf of the computer magazine rack where they kept them.