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#1
jackskel21
Dec 12, 2012 19:42:01 I need to know if there is a item, spell, or misc. that allows someone to conceal there alignment from everyone? Possibly even there own patron deity........
#2
0akenshield9
Dec 12, 2012 22:41:47 If there isn't a Wizard's created item, you could always homebrew it! I'm guessing 2nd edition rules where alignment matters, so I haven't a clue.
#3
gerrin
Jan 29, 2013 22:17:31 There are several items in Dragonlance that allow you to hide identity. What gaming system are looking to use it for.
#4
justmike1976
Jan 30, 2013 21:08:46 however against a god it isnt possible for mortal magic to do that effect
#5
kaithan-kanathar
Feb 08, 2013 20:28:50 Hey Gerrin, what items are you talking about? I know about various spells, but I'm drawing a blank on any DL specific items.
#6
Granakrs
Feb 08, 2013 23:06:18 okay..... well, the best spell to my knowledge is raistlin vs Takhisis, DC comics.

Raistlin, knowing he was going to go up against Takhisis, found a dark elf exile, and cast a spell. The spell did two things.

1) All of raistlin's thoughts of betrayal was transferred to the dark elf, so Takhisis wouldn't sense true motives.

2) the Dark elf was mentally coerces to find Raistlin, at the right time, so that Raistlin can retake his dark thoughts back and betray Takhisis who was occupied watching Tanis and Ariakas kill each other.

Withi Dragons of an Hourglass Mage, the DC version may no longer be official, but it can still be a fun read.
#7
Tetrahelius
Mar 22, 2014 14:25:12
IMHO alignment has always been a "guide" on a characters behaviour and motivations. It lets the player know what kind of decisions a character would make in any given situation. Is the character more concerned about self or others? (good, neutral, or evil) Are they individualistic and chafe under rules or do they believe in structure and adhering to societal norms? (chaotic, neutral, lawful).

Concealing alignment is like trying to conceal the morals and behaviours of the character.

I think the real question is, how do you let other players and NPC's see past questionable morals and behaviours.

A charm spell comes to mind...

Thoughts?

#8
Book5
Dec 17, 2014 16:39:52
There is a nondetection spell that makes it impossible for anything less than a 9th level divination from working on you.

I oddly had a dagger of nondetection once. I think that was galarion tho.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 jackskel21 Dec 12, 2012 19:42:01	I need to know if there is a item, spell, or misc. that allows someone to conceal there alignment from everyone? Possibly even there own patron deity........
#2 0akenshield9 Dec 12, 2012 22:41:47	If there isn't a Wizard's created item, you could always homebrew it! I'm guessing 2nd edition rules where alignment matters, so I haven't a clue.
#3 gerrin Jan 29, 2013 22:17:31	There are several items in Dragonlance that allow you to hide identity. What gaming system are looking to use it for.
#4 justmike1976 Jan 30, 2013 21:08:46	however against a god it isnt possible for mortal magic to do that effect
#5 kaithan-kanathar Feb 08, 2013 20:28:50	Hey Gerrin, what items are you talking about? I know about various spells, but I'm drawing a blank on any DL specific items.
#6 Granakrs Feb 08, 2013 23:06:18	okay..... well, the best spell to my knowledge is raistlin vs Takhisis, DC comics. Raistlin, knowing he was going to go up against Takhisis, found a dark elf exile, and cast a spell. The spell did two things. 1) All of raistlin's thoughts of betrayal was transferred to the dark elf, so Takhisis wouldn't sense true motives. 2) the Dark elf was mentally coerces to find Raistlin, at the right time, so that Raistlin can retake his dark thoughts back and betray Takhisis who was occupied watching Tanis and Ariakas kill each other. Withi Dragons of an Hourglass Mage, the DC version may no longer be official, but it can still be a fun read.
#7 Tetrahelius Mar 22, 2014 14:25:12	IMHO alignment has always been a "guide" on a characters behaviour and motivations. It lets the player know what kind of decisions a character would make in any given situation. Is the character more concerned about self or others? (good, neutral, or evil) Are they individualistic and chafe under rules or do they believe in structure and adhering to societal norms? (chaotic, neutral, lawful). Concealing alignment is like trying to conceal the morals and behaviours of the character. I think the real question is, how do you let other players and NPC's see past questionable morals and behaviours. A charm spell comes to mind... Thoughts?
#8 Book5 Dec 17, 2014 16:39:52	There is a nondetection spell that makes it impossible for anything less than a 9th level divination from working on you. I oddly had a dagger of nondetection once. I think that was galarion tho.