At the end of 'Knight of the Black Rose,' Lord Soth goes through a test, and since he failed, he got Sithicus. What would have happened if he'd given in, got down and gave thanks to the gods, thereby passing the test? It doesn't seem that the Dark Powers would just destroy him, would they return him to Krynn? Would they remove his curse and let him loose in Barovia or Gundarak? Or would they keep the curse and keep him in Ravenloft?
Oh, and the Dark Lord of the carnival (I think, I know it's something like that) is named Isolde. Is this Soth's Isolde?
Nope, different Isolde. One's human, one's a Ghael Eladrin(sp?) (angel).
And FWI while Carnival is "technically" a pocket domain, she's not a darklord per se, being good aligned, and in fact one of the most powerful forces of good in Ravenloft but simply a Ghaele elhadrin with an REALLY screwed up reality wrinkle to prevent her from catching up to her mortal foe, the gentleman Caller and twists the other inhabitants of the wrinkle...
OOPS just had an idea:D !
"Runs to Gm cave to write down some notes"
No one said Darklords had to be evil.
o_O
She is actually listed as a Darklord. No one said Darklords had to be evil. And I wouldn't say she's very "good".
:OMG! "Represses the nearly incontrolable fit of coughing"What!? the whole concept of a Darklord in Ravenloft is a being who committed sins of such utter perversion and darkness to earn a domain.The very definition of a Darklord means not only an evil being but a being of such evil as to impress even the demons of the abyss.
When thinking Darklords I think Hitler, Emperor Neron, Emperor Palpatine, the Joker evil not run of the mild garden variety evil.
No sorry but Darklords are by definition evil to the Core...
On the Isolde issue, even if Carnival is by most definition a floating pocket domain (then again Canival one of the wierdest places in Ravenloft period, even contradictory to the definition of domains). Isolde is described as actively dedicated to protecting victims, innocents etc. in Ravenloft. I've looked through her history in everything I own and could'nt find anything that could be described as an act of uther darkness needed to even qualify as a darklord. (except perhaps entering Ravenloft willingly
). It is true that Isolde's idealism definetly took a blow in Ravenloft but she does remain a fundamentally good person.
In the games I've run, I changed Carnival in to take that in account changing instead it's nature from a floating pocket domain to a very corrupted reality wrinkle. by nature the Twisting is an indication that she is slowly slipping into darkness and despair even as her very nature clashes with the fabric of Ravenloft. Twisting them becomes a materialisation of her growing doubts, fears and pains corrupting her reality wrinkle since by nature outsiders are the physical embodiement of concepts, forces and alignements, etc. And thus that's why they are typically banned or rare in Ravenloft, they radiate their nature and existence even as it clashes with the fabric of Ravenloft. Fiends radiate primal indiluted evil to Ravenloft while celestials do the same for good
That's how I see Carnival and Isolde anyway, haven't seen anything yet that could completely dispprove this theory...
I've always assumed the nature of the Twisting was the metaphysical clash between the nature of the plane and Isolde's inherent nature, and that a) it reflects the chaotic bent of her goodness as currently defined and b) lets the Dark Powers disturb her (presuambly) by taking her ideal that people should be open about their true selves and perverts it.
She is actually listed as a Darklord. No one said Darklords had to be evil. And I wouldn't say she's very "good".
Where exactly is she listed as a darklord, pray tell?
Nope, different Isolde. One's human, one's a Ghael Eladrin(sp?) (angel).
Soth's Isolde is an elf, not a human.
Soth's Isolde is an elf, not a human.
True, Soth's first wife was human, but her name was Gladria.