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| #1SilvarionApr 14, 2013 23:47:25 | I'm thinking of making a warband based around 4 Orc Barbarians and 4 Bugbear Berserkers. Thing is, I'm stuck for the rest of the warband. Any help would be appreciated. Warband concept: pinball around your enemies as you slaughter them Commander: ??? maptiles: ??? 28 total levels + ??? 4 Orc Barbarian 4 Bugbear Berserker 4 ??? 26 Orders (mostly done but I'm open to suggestions) 4 Hacking Frenzy 4 Magic Short Sword 2 Furious Bellow defenses 2 Tough as Nails (also get rid of pesky webs and faerie fires) 3 Defiant Stance (prevent damage and gain morale? sure!) 4 Tactical Block (prevent damage and untap? yeah!) moves 4 Relentless Advance 3 Into the Fray Thanks in advance |
| #2ed_gentryApr 15, 2013 8:36:01 | Bugbear Berserkers work amazingly well with Spring Attack. |
| #3UltivilleApr 15, 2013 11:22:08 | Yeah, the challenge for this deck is going to be that the Bugbear and Orc Berserker are actually kind of awkward together; if you're not using Dex the Orc is basically better, and if you are, the Bugbear is, so it seems like most decks are going to want one or the other. But far be it from me to contest a brew with specific requirements, so here are my thoughts: Commander and Creatures You want either card draw (to bring in more cards to feed into the machine) or card selection of some sort, or I guess both, I'd think. That means for your commander and last four creatures you want either Kalteros + Drow Wizards (and run Arcane Rituals), Snigg + level 3 Wisdom creature (and run Schemes and Change of Plans), or Rhynseera and probably Elf Archers to claim treasure as the level 1's. I think Snigg + Wisdom is almost certainly the best combo build you can make, but I also think that if you want a pure combo build you don't run Orcs, you just run bugbears because with Snigg's 5 creature hand you'll get the bugbears in plenty of time to do whatever it is you want to. I also think Kalteros + Wizards is probably a lot like the Snigg/Wisdom plan but worse because you probanly don't need the 9 leadership. So let's make this deck as different from the combo build as possible, and focus on being able to play and win a "fair" game if you can't just combo everything to death. On that grounds, I'd say run Rhynseera and Elf Archers or that level 1 Orc that hits for 20, probably the latter. Order Cards Bugbears and Orc Barbarians definitely need Magic Short Swords to run the flip-out-and-kill-everyone plan with maximum reliability, so you're right you want those, though you might find 3 is enough with Rhynseera. You're planning to make a bunch of attacks with a single Con creature, so you want that creature to be doing +10 damage; run at least 2 and probably 3 Undaunted Surge. It's annoying that you have to play it before the Short Sword or anything else, but not disastrous and if you don't want to have to spend some effort assembling Voltron, you should probably play a different deck plan :P Other than that, you want mostly attack cards. There are three major concerns with a bugbear/berserker kill run: running out of movement, running out of cards, and not doing enough damage to kill your current target. I think Hacking Frenzy is good, though I'm not sold on 4. Here are other cards I think you should certainly run: -Defensive Advantage and Slice: Address the problem of running out of cards. I think Tactical Block is a great card, but probably not good in this deck; you don't want to run enough defense cards to make it shine, I'd think. -Seize the Opportunity: This is the best defense card to use with Undaunted Surge and short swords, not close. The fact that the attack fails if the free attack kills the guy is absurd, and if you have a Short Sword and Undaunted Surge, your guy is just flat immune to damage from anything with less than 30 HP left, which you shouldn't have much trouble arranging with this deck. Also, because your guy untaps when adjacent creatures die, it's like a Tactical Block that prevents all damage and kills their guy. (Obviously not always, but the vast majority of the time this is true.) -Charge: Like Into the Fray, except not a terrible card. (You might still have to run some number of Into the Fray since you can't reliably run the good Dex movement cards, but you should certainly max out on Charge first.) -Daring Attack: Like a better Quick Jab on anyone with a Magic Short Sword, mostly. Kind of awkward in that if you kill the enemy with it, your guy might untap twice and "waste" an untap, but I think you still need it to make sure you can take down things like Dragon Knights. Lack of Quick Jab certainly hurts the combo potential. You could play it, but then you reallly don't want to make kill runs with anything that isn't a bugbear so it again makes the orcs look kinda dumb which isn't the point of the brew. You could think about running Level Up and Heroic Surge again and just plan to really assemble Voltron to the tune of Undaunted Surge, Level Up, Magic Short Sword on one guy who just wigs out and kills everything, which has the benefit of being pretty hilarious. If you really want to induce opponent rage, you could then add Vorpal Sword, at which point it is probably impossible for them to win, though of course at that point you probably deserve it :P Anyway, those are my thoughts. |
| #4SilvarionApr 15, 2013 19:33:52 |
Sounds good to me. I'll run with that. On the absence of Quick Jab and Spring Attack - yes, you got the idea - I just want to be able to play every card to support either barbarians or berserkers once I start the combo chain. Taking your advice into account and hopefully I'll do well when I next get to play this. So here's the new and improved Warband: Warband name: Pinball Suicide Squad Warband concept: pinball around your enemies as you slaughter them Commander: Rhynseera (trade your cards for the Swords and move orders) Maptiles: anything w/o arcane circles and hazards 32 total levels 34 Orders (over 30 but might be trimmed down after a few rounds of playing) defenses "moves" |
| #5mythologicoreMay 04, 2013 11:19:01 | hey put 4 goblin champs in and you will have the axe gang from kung fu hustle |
| #6SilvarionMay 05, 2013 10:37:50 | ![]() |
| #7SilvarionMay 28, 2013 14:40:43 | New warband brainstorming Orders (34, 8 Imm Defense/16 Offense/10 Misc) 4 Unbreakable 4 Sacrifice
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| #8mythologicoreMay 28, 2013 22:25:03 | D Door Blast Beatdown is Pretty nasty! |