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#1 ThatOtherGuy Dec 18, 2014 22:28:20	Hello! 5E is awesome, and I want to convert my homebrew setting content to it, and I want to make sure that I'm doing it right sot that it makes sense in how the new rules work. Thus far I'm unsure. lol. In previous iterations of 3.X, natural attacks had their own rules which were separate from iteratives, and were fluid and accessible for use for any character that simply had the attacks. Now iterative attacks are Extra Attack and their more obscure forms, and natural attacks have become Multiattack from the MM, yes? Because I'm unsure, the wording for the Bite and Claw attacks are quite possibly redundant and sound confusing to me already.   I'm also wondering about the Savage Sub's damage scaling. I want it to kind of force the PC into using natural attacks, and have them at the same time scale as well as weapon damage, but not overdo it. How far am I from that where it stands now?     This race is a sort of angelic cousin of the Manticore, Sphinx and Chimera. They are Apex predators in all ways, and while they will eat a man without remorse, by the commands of their humble goddess they give mercy to those weak.   I have writeups upon writeups of lore about these creatures and their societies, but I'm really just wondering about scaling power and balance while staying true to the concept. Thanks so much for any input in advance.   Here it is.   Khime Sebak   Ability Score Increase: Your Dexterity score increases by 2. Age: Khime Sebak mature around their 60th Gorb cycle, and are known to be eternal creatures. Alignment: Khime Sebak on average are a good natured kin; while bearing the nature of apex predators, they are devoted to ideals of mercy and discretion. Size: Khime Sebak stand around a median of 7 feet tall, barring wings. Their frames are fearsome and majestic. Your size is Medium. Speed: Your base walking speed is 30 feet. Your base flight speed is 30 feet. Darkvision: Seeing with six eyes bred for only the most valorous hunt, Khime Sebak have no difficulty in darkness. You can see in dim light within 60 feet of you as if it were bright light, and darkness as if it were dim light. You can't discern color in darkness, only shades of gray. Chimeric Maws: You have three heads; one of Alsoph, one of a lion, and one of a dragon. The dragon and lion head are fearsome. You gain two bite attacks, each being 1d6 slashing attacks. They count as Unarmed Strikes. When used with Two Weapon Fighting, you still add your damage modifier to the damage roll, but only if you attacked using both heads on your turn. You are proficient with these attacks. Eternal Witness: Khime Sebak are immune to aging. Wild Things: Khime Sebak are proficient in Stealth and Survival skills. Languages: You can read, speak and write in Khime Sebak. Subraces: Among the Khime, there are those who excel in the hunt, and those who flourish in their spirituality. Choose one subrace; these are Savage and Magnificent beasts.   Savage Predator's Blades: You gain two claw attacks. They deal 1d4 slashing damage, and count as Unarmed Strikes. When used with Two Weapon Fighting, you still add your damage modifier to the damage roll if your other attack was either a bite or claw attack. You cannot use a claw attack with your hand when you are wielding anything in that hand. You are proficient with these attacks. Multi-Attack: At your 10th level, regardless of class levels, you can use your bite and claw attacks as a multi-attack. You can make 3 attacks in any combination, using each appendage once. At 15th level, you can attack with all four of your attacks. This does not stack with Extra Attack. Pride of the Lion: You have disadvantage on all attacks whenever wielding forged or manufactured weapons.   Magnificent Ability Score Increase: Your Wisdom and your Charisma scores increase by 1. Angelic Countenance: You have proficiency in the Persuasion skill. Camouflage: You can cast Invisibility on yourself once using this trait. You regain the ability to do so after a long rest.
#2 transcendantviewer Dec 18, 2014 22:52:51	Hmm... This looks alright, but I'd recommend playtesting it. See if a DM would let you play it and see how it works. Although, I think the Multiattack should have some sort of stipulation or take-away so you don't end up playing a Wizard that mauls people. That's a bit game-imbalancing.
#3 ThatOtherGuy Dec 18, 2014 23:38:39	I think that if they went full caster with the savage subrace option, then they would be dealing suboptimal damage most of the time. This is because they would be playing with a stat allocation designed for a wizard. I mean, they are either multiattacking or casting a spell on the turn, and at higher levels, there is no inherent 'these natural attacks can be used to overcome damage reduction magic' equivalent clauses, which would make them seek a way to make them such, spending their spell resources if they are a wizard.  They would have to spend  a good amount of their spells in order to become as efficient in combat dpr-wise, and including the plausible rounds spent on using said spells to buff, I think it would balance out. In a rough sense.   What else could be done inside the text of the subrace?   Thanks for your reply by the way, and sorry if any of my post sounds defensive or antagonistic, I don't mean any of it in that way at all, I'm just looking at things I can see and factoring in action economy trade-offs. That being said, my mastery of this editions' rules are not as concrete as I would like them to be. I'm definitely going to be playtesting.   Thanks again!
(Reply to #3) transcendantviewer	ThatOtherGuy wrote:
#5 ThatOtherGuy Dec 19, 2014 3:04:57	You mean PbP?
(Reply to #5) transcendantviewer	ThatOtherGuy wrote:
#7 ThatOtherGuy Dec 19, 2014 4:38:40	Sure! I live in China.    Literally...    Google Hangouts?
#8 transcendantviewer Dec 19, 2014 20:27:41	Skype works too if you've got it.
#9 transcendantviewer Dec 19, 2014 20:28:34	And you can drop me a PM on here, I believe.
#10 jonathonhawke Jan 05, 2015 23:47:40	Bite attacks normally do piercing damage...   And if these are angelic beasts, should they be Celestials and speak Celestial?