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#1 EzechielDantan Jan 10, 2015 10:39:38	The polymorph mechanics annoy me a bit, so I wish to change it, and probably nerf it a bit in doing so. This is mainly for polymorph spells, (polymorph, polymorph any object and shapechange).     Adopting all of the rules for wildshape, with the following modifications:   You do not retain the benefit of any features from your class, race, or other source and can use them if the newform is physically capable of doing so.You can’t use any of your special senses, such as darkvision, unless your new form also has that sense.​  ​ You lose the benefits of all feats except those that grant skill or saving throw proficiency or increase your intelligence, wisdom or charisma. ​   When you transform, you assume the beast’s hitpoints and Hit Dice. Half of the damage you take in polymorphed form carries over to your normal form when the spell ends. However, if you revert as aresult of dropping to 0 hit points, any excess damage carries over to your normal form without being halved.  ​ Would you consider these changes reasonable?
#2 AaronOfBarbaria Jan 10, 2015 15:05:00	I do not find it reasonable to consider polymorph to be too potent as is.   I also find the process of applying half the damage suffered in polymorphed form as damage to your normal hit point total to be a very complicated mess, with the added complication of removing the intentionally there safety-net of turning into a tough creature to provide opportunity to survive and escape - since if the caster had 5 HP left it wouldn't matter that they turned into a rhinoceros and tried to run away, the next 10 damage they take leaves them dying (or is even further a complicated mess because the caster can be out of HP and still conscious/alive thanks to the buffer of hit points provided by their polymorphed form... but then drops as soon as the spell ends because there is no accompanying heal your actual HP half the amount of healing your polymorphed form receives rule accompanying)   It would be a lot simpler and easier to track to keep the caster's hit point total as-is and provide an ammount of temporary hit points from the polymorph spell (either the creature's hit points, or just the number of hit dice the creature has)., if your intent was to reduce the survival enhancing nature of the spell.
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#6 edwin_su Jan 10, 2015 18:00:06	EzechielDantan wrote:
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#8 Greenstone.Walker Jan 13, 2015 12:29:41	Rich Burlew posted some ideas about this in the GiantITP blog. The article is for D&D 3.5 but I think the ideas are just as applicable to 5E.