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#1 CFK Mar 18, 2015 6:00:02	So, a warlock with devils sight can see normally for 120ft in darkness, normal and magical. This is a burden for me as a DM for sure, I need to keep track of that constantly.   Another thing is that some puzzles include magical darkness to have a cool effect. A dark hole you have to crawl into becomes a minor issue.   Ofcourse you can make it have a 90 degrees turn after a few feet to make it have the spooky theme you want. But what about a magical shroud of illusery? Can you make an illusion cube of dark air? how... what... why not?
#2 QwertyAzerty Mar 18, 2015 7:25:17	even simplier then that, put a curtain (or any other physical way to block vision, string of beads, heavy dense fog etc... every 5 feet in your tunnel so no matter what he cannot see what is waiting for him next 5 feet, butthe curtain are easy to move and are a non issues for movement. (or they are an issue and make it difficult terrain for added suspense, that if they get in trouble they won't be able to run away easily.
#3 Macv12 Mar 18, 2015 8:07:29	Making something "spooky" can be accomplished by just saying "it's dark," regardless of if the warlock can see adequately in it. If blinding them is the goal, you can always make it foggy. I dare you to say Silent Hill isn't "spooky."   I would advise against illusory black cubes or curtains or whatever. Then it becomes obvious that you're just cynically trying to negate the class feature they took for nothing but the power to avoid that exact situation. But if the BBEG knows the warlock can see in the dark, then yeah, using illusory black objects to "blind" them would be a great way to throw them off-balance. Just make sure you use this very sparingly.
#4 Mephi1234 Mar 18, 2015 9:00:47	CFK wrote:
#5 JRutterbush Mar 18, 2015 9:55:57	Darkness is a lack of light, while most illusion spells specify that you can create illusions of creatures or objects. A lack of light is neither a creature nor an object, therefore "darkness" can't be created by illusions. You can create illusions of some other vision-obscuring thing, though, such as smoke or fog. But the key thing to remember with illusions is that, unless otherwise specified, you have to create an illusion of "a thing", not "a lack of a thing". This is also why you can't use illusions to become "invisible", because creating an illusion of an empty space where you are simply doesn't work.
(Reply to #5) QwertyAzerty	JRutterbush wrote:
#7 Mephi1234 Mar 18, 2015 11:53:48	QwertyAzerty wrote:
#8 CFK Mar 18, 2015 12:21:26	Mephi1234 wrote:
#9 CFK Mar 18, 2015 12:29:10	QwertyAzerty wrote:
#10 DemoMonkey Mar 18, 2015 16:25:36	Impenetrable mist, much more atmospheric than plain old darkness.   Blinding light. You brought torches, did you bring welding masks?   Illusion of something false IN the(non-illusory) darkness. A pit covered by an illusion of a stone floor, inside a dark area. Warlock sees through the darkness effortlessly - clever, clever warlock - but maybe doesn't think to question what only they can see...   Negating a players powers should be done sparingly, and with great care and consideration. But it's worth it on those special occasions to give players the thrill of thinking on their feet when their tried and true (and maybe a little humdrum by now) routine tactics don't work.
#11 Psikerlord Mar 18, 2015 23:50:41	I changed devil's sight to not work in magical darkness, coz it's OP. Instead gain adv on initiative checks (he gets partial glimpses of future danger type thing). Darkness remains scary.
#12 CFK Mar 19, 2015 0:15:40	Psikerlord wrote: