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#1 Lord_Phobetor Nov 01, 2014 17:34:40	Yeah, pretty much what it says.  If mummy lords, liches, and vampire lords are legendary monsters, why not the death knight? Also, any homebrew ideas on how to rectify such an oversight?
#2 pukunui Nov 01, 2014 18:29:45	I've wondered that myself. I see no reason why they couldn't be a legendary monster. I don't know that I'd give them a lair with lair actions, though. I'd probably class them along the lines of the solar and empyrean - they've got legendary actions but no lairs. I'd also suggest looking at the other legendary monsters' actions to see if there are any suitable ones you could adapt. Maybe also look at the just revealed Oathbreaker paladin subclass features for ideas. One that springs to mind could be a "command undead" sort of thing where the death knight can use a legendary action to give an allied undead creature a free move or attack or something.
#3 Kalani Nov 02, 2014 7:53:17	Lord Soth is definately a Legendary Monster. I expect him to have legendary actions as well anywhere within Dargaard Keep. Other death knights may not be up to snuff as far as being legendary goes however.   I expect the DMG will have rules about converting monsters to Legendary.
#4 surf13 Nov 02, 2014 20:53:35	Legendary Creature is just a template folks, it's not even budgeted into the XP award. You can make a Death Knight one quite easily...
#5 Timborama Nov 03, 2014 12:18:17	Lord_Phobetor wrote:
#6 Illithidbix Nov 03, 2014 15:47:18	A very good question, and something I've wondered. The same question could also apply to the Balor and Pit Fiend.   One thought is that the Death Knight, Balor and Pit Fiend is something that's likely to be encountered with minions, they're kinda iconic “Dread Commanders” of the Undead, Demons and Devils.   Whilst alot of the other Legendary Creatures are more "Solo monsters" and legendary actions do seem very inspired by 4E (esp. essentials) of giving the monster mini-turns between player's, so the fight against a single target feels more dynamic and threatening and they're less vulnerable to control effects.   But aside from “Marshal Undead”, none of these really have any special powers that tap into that role. Certainly not like 4E with Pit Fiend's making devils into bombs!   Another weird thing about the Death Knight is it has no resistance to non-magical/silvered weapons. Which is pretty weird given the CR 3 Wight manages to have that. Also no resistance to cold, which is common for undead.   Then again. Looking at the 2E entry for Death Knight, a lot of traditional immunities were missing from it.
#7 pukunui Nov 03, 2014 16:29:46	Timborama wrote:
#8 Timmee Nov 05, 2014 4:43:08	surf13 wrote:
#9 surf13 Nov 05, 2014 14:06:27	Timmee wrote:
#10 Huntsman57 Nov 05, 2014 21:04:50	Sooo, why doesn't the Death Knight get Finger of Death?