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#1 El_Condoro Oct 01, 2015 15:24:33	The rakshasa has Limited Spell Immunity (immune to spells of 6th-level or lower).    To me, that means any spells that target the creature of those levels will simply fail to affect the rakshasa.   But what about AOE spells? I would rule a fireball would have normal effect but the rakshasa would be immune, even if those around it were not.   However, my real question is with spells like silence. Would the rakshasa be affected? For example, if the spell was centred on it - could it hear and speak as normal? Would sound pass through the silence for the rakshasa?   What do you think?
#2 Macv12 Oct 01, 2015 16:45:02	I wouldn't think so, any more than a rakshasa could walk through a wall created by Move Earth. Silence affects the environment, not a targeted creature, by removing sound from it. The fact that it doesn't allow a save agrees with this.
#3 Greenstone.Walker Oct 01, 2015 17:33:19	I'd base it on college.   For exampl, the effects of an evocation spell (e.g. fireball) would not affect the rakshasa but the effects of a summoning spell would - a summoned beast could attack the rakshasa, a summoned wall would stop them walking through, etc.
#4 El_Condoro Oct 01, 2015 21:45:46	Yes, on second thoughts, I think the word "immunity" in Limited Spell Immunity should be read as per the combat effect: the rakshasa is immune to any direct effect from spells of 6th-level or lower but the environmental effect will still be in place.
#5 Slagger_the_Chuul Oct 01, 2015 22:11:12	One of the big questions is how it would affect the rakshasa's own spellcasting abilities.  Would it be able to cast spells with a verbal component due to its Limited Spell Immunity, or does the silence being an ambient effect (instead of something directly targeting the rakshasa) prevent that? Not being able to use its suite of spells would be a significant impediment to its capabilities.
#6 Macv12 Oct 01, 2015 22:52:00	I would assume that Silence doesn't stop one's vocal cords from vibrating, it just stops the propagation of that vibration through other media. (If we get overly scientific about it, "sound" isn't a thing, it's just our perception of vibrations and limited to a certain frequency range; to truly stop all sounds entirely, I'm pretty sure Silence would have to reduce a space to absolute 0 K, so no motion was happening at all. Hence, it probably makes more sense to say it cuts off propagation, but not source.)   Yet apparently that's enough to prevent spellcasting for anyone else; the words of their spell don't achieve any pitch or resonance and can't "reach" whatever it is that kicks the magic into gear. Again, a rakshasa would be helpless without an aura of immunity that makes the space around them non-silent, which I don't think they have. It's not just that no sound can be emitted, but also no sound can pass through the space. They're out of luck.   To argue with myself though, it could be that the field of silencing magic extends to the rakshasa' body and can't permeate it, so sounds can be created and resonate inside their body. One might, if they wanted, consider that enough for verbal components to work. And furthermore, it's magic, and doesn't have to make sense if you don't want it to, so I wouldn't fault someone who said that a rakshasa can make noises just fine and everyone can hear them, even in the silence field, because hey, that's interesting.
#7 DM_Rober ago	I guess that is immune to spells  of 6th level or lower (THAT FORCE A SAVING THROW and BE DIRECTLY AFFECTED) unless it wishes to be affected.   And in the same context others spells up to 6th has advantage on saving throws against all other spells and magical effects.