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#1 Limond Dec 22, 2014 7:47:16	This is a change to the Spell Scroll magic item rules.   Once per day if you are able to read a language you may cast a spell from a scroll. The spell does not need to be on your class spell list and you do not need a class spell list to use a scroll in this manner. The spell must be of 5th level or lower and you may only cast the spell if the spells level is equal to or greater then half of the players level (round up). If the spell is on your class list you may cast higher level spells following the rules on page 200 of the DMG.   What do you think? I wasn't a fan of how limiting the magic was. With this rule it allows players to fill in some gaps in spell casting if they don't have an evenly balanced party and non-casters don't have to always go to casters with hat in hand wanting a buff.
#2 AaronOfBarbaria Dec 22, 2014 13:31:53	I don't think limiting this to once per day makes sense - especially in 5e where, if you are using the provided treasure generation method, scrolls aren't particularly common. A limit of once per day on a thing you might spend a considerable number of sessions only having one of anyway seems strange.   I also don't see a reason to limit the spell level. I'm more a fan of attaching a roll, even if it is just the same check as already present in the spell scroll rules modified to being a specific ability score (I'd go with Intelligence, but that's me) and thus creating the following situation:   A spell is of a level you can cast and is present on your spell list - you can use that scroll to cast the spell. A spell is of a level higher than you are capable casting, or isn't present on your spell list - you can use that scroll to cast the spell if you succeed at a spellcasting ability (intelligence if you don't have a spellcasting ability) check with a DC of 10 + the spell's level.
#3 Limond Dec 22, 2014 14:32:17	I tend to play a bit higher magic fantasy settings so magic is pretty common, therefore scrolls would be a bit easier to come by in random dungeon tables.  I like the spell limit so non-casters don't get the very good spells that should be class specific.   I might make them do the check depending on the spell. Maybe for 2nd to 5th level spells they have to make an appororiate intelligence or wisdom check.
(Reply to #3) EzechielDantan	Limond wrote:
#5 Cooperjera Dec 23, 2014 5:04:30	I'm using something similar to AaronOfBarbaria.    1)  If the spell is on your spell list and of a level you can cast then cast as normal. 2) if the spell is not on your spell list or of a level higher than you can cast then:      2a) Make a Spell Casting ability (Arcana) check for spells found on Bard, Sorcerer, Warlock, and Wizard spell list      2b) Make a Spell Casting ability (Religion) check for spells found on Cleric & Palidin spell lists      2c) Make a Spell Casting ability (Nature) check for spell found on Druid & Range spell lists. 3) If the class does not have a spell casting ability then use Int + appropriate skill. 4) The target DC is as described in PHB or 10 + spell level.   This allows non-casters to cast spells based on skill.  For example barbarians can use recieve Nature as a skill proficiency.  Therefore intelligent barbarians may be able to cast from scrolls of a high level.  This also allows sorcerers, warlocsk, and wizards to cast from each others spell list.  The Hermit and Sage background allow for skill proficiency in Religion and Arcana.  This is how a fighter might be able to cast from scrolls more effectivly.   I haven't had to use this set of rules as of yet.  So they are untested.  A change to the casting DC may help keep if from being too broken.  I wouldn't want it wasy for non-casting fighters and barbarians to easily cast 9th level spells from a scroll.
#6 sleypy Dec 23, 2014 7:10:15	Limond wrote: