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#1 Axiomatic_Badger Jul 06, 2010 10:28:22	Something occured to me whilst pondering fantasy cosmology. What if, instead of destroying the 13th moon, the Giants instead altered it. What if it wasn't a moon anymore. What if it was the sun? Iirc, the sun in eberron has never been mentioned in any eberron articles or publications, and yet it's by necessity a major item in any setting's cosmology. I was thinking about the idea of it being a ridiculously large, glowing siberys shard, but then I realised that's kinda what the moons are anyway. It also gives an interesting twist to the generic illithid plot to extinguish it.
#2 AvonRekaes Jul 06, 2010 14:22:07	That's a good one. Similar to my idea that the Dragon's built the Sun from scratch and had the dragon-who-inspired-legends-of-Dol-Arah sacrifice herself to ignite it. It's interesting because dragons, demon, and couatl, at least in the previous edition, had no need of the sun, since they all had Darkvision (and one could make a case for the Ring of Siberys providing its own illumination without needing to refract the sun's rays, so any race with Lowlight vision would have been fine without a sun too). Your theory just delays the Sun's existace for a few Ages or so.
#3 PJammaGod Jul 08, 2010 1:10:19	I do love it when the old jokes get trundled out (in regards to the lack of sun mentionioned in Eberron). Of course with Dol Arrah being the deity of Sun, it wouldn't be a far stretch to assume that there is a Sun out there. Remember just because gravity isn't explicity mentioned, doesn't mean Eberron lacks gravity. That being said, it would be an interesting irony if Crya (the 13th moon) had been transformed into the Sun. Each moon is associated with both a month and a Dragonmark. In the case of Crya, the 13th month was tied to the Mark of Death. Having a source of heat, light and light tied into the Mark of Death is certainly something different from what I would normally expect... but it's kinda cool too. It would explain why the Mark of Death is so potent. Even more amusing is the thought-pattern that follows. Sun worship is an old chesnut of humanity (in the real world a well as Eberron). What if when someone offers a prayer to Dol Arrah they are not actually providing "divine power" to her, but are instead empowering the Mark of Death just that little bit. Erandis d'Vol, as the last bearer of the Mark of Death, attains a fraction more power each time someone prayers to Dol Arrah... ahh the irony.
#4 juanpierre Jul 09, 2010 11:19:22	I was just leafing through my new MM3, and I noticed Allabar, the Opener of the Way, under Star Spawn.  Supposed to be a living star that threatens the world or something.  A level 30 solo.  Anyway, made me wonder if it could somehow be repackaged as the lost 13th moon of Eberron come to seek vengeance.
#5 AvonRekaes Jul 09, 2010 12:10:12	I was just leafing through my new MM3, and I noticed Allabar, the Opener of the Way, under Star Spawn.  Supposed to be a living star that threatens the world or something.  A level 30 solo.  Anyway, made me wonder if it could somehow be repackaged as the lost 13th moon of Eberron come to seek vengeance. That's the first thing I thought of too. If anyone's read my "completed campaign" thread, I recently just finished a game who's main antagonist was a daelkyr. He opened a rift in the sky that the PCs had to convince the dragons to help them ward Eberron against. My campaign ended before MM3 was released, and I just had the dragon's ward not be efficient enough to completely stop the advance of the rift in reality. However, if I were to run the game again (or anyone else is planning on using my game as inspiration), I would have Xoriat spit out Allabar/Crya like a bullet, smashing straight through the dragons' ward, and impact on the planet. The PCs would need to defeat the meteor-bullet-moon, and then afterward the broken ward would allow the rift to continue to grow, giving the PCs the dramatic tension needed to make the last push to the center of the universe more imperative.
#6 Gurv Jul 23, 2010 16:47:46	Although the idea of the 13th moon becoming the sun doesn't appeal to me (you'd think that would be the kind of change that would draw more attention in history), the fact that the sun doesn't have a role in the myths of Eberron is unusual.
#7 CorrinAvatan Jul 29, 2010 14:45:24	I was just leafing through my new MM3, and I noticed Allabar, the Opener of the Way, under Star Spawn.  Supposed to be a living star that threatens the world or something.  A level 30 solo.  Anyway, made me wonder if it could somehow be repackaged as the lost 13th moon of Eberron come to seek vengeance.  The exact same thing popped into my mind when I read his entry.