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Daelkyr and Xoriat

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#1
cujo90009
Jun 14, 2011 12:30:34 I am running a campaign of characters that we are shaping up to be the Villians of our next campaigns. The group has become a group of mobsters and drug pushers based in Sharn. The basis of the story is centered around a drug featured in the Book of Vile Darkness called Agony. We have shifted some of the properties of the drug around but still it is something that outsiders crave. The Idea is based on some Vedic beliefs that the thought of something can bring about a new god like figure.

As a DM my idea is that the Lords of Dust, who as stated in the Eberron source materal, are working with the Hags of Droaam to proliferate the widespread use of Agony. The resulting addiction is a loophole to "free" the Daelkyr masters. (e.g. The daelkyr are embodiments of maddness and the addictions of the masses will free them by allowing them to influence the addicts).

I was toying around with the idea of this addiction allowing the Daelkyr to influence those with aberrant dragon marks, or even reviving & changing the 13th mark. I was hoping for some good ideas reguarding that and possibly some more info and details about how Byshek is able to affect abberations...

Thoughts?

If you want more details of the campaign check out our OP site: www.obsidianportal.com/campaigns/demand-...
#2
Madfox11
Jun 16, 2011 4:14:30 Why would the Lords of Dust want the daelkyr to be freed? The daelkyr are just much an anethema to the Lords with the daelkyr wanting to change the world into a reflection of the Far Realm. The Lords of Dust simply want to rule the world, and it wouldn't much of a stretch to assume they actually like the current status quo. They have all those mortals to play with, and pain and suffering is all the worse when a victim can reflect it to the people who are suffering less ;) Or is it an unknown side effect of the drugs?
#3
cujo90009
Jun 16, 2011 11:13:08 I did not explain properly in my original post.

My thought was more along the lines of this:

The hags and lords of dust are working with agony (to use its abilty to create magical items) to release the rajahs. The hags plan to betray the lords at some point, and draw enough power to from the Rajahs to bolster their armies and claim their stake as a nation, which was denied to them during the treaty of thronehold. We have a house rule about extracting agony; it requires a special device constructed from byshek. The Lords needed to cooperate with the hags in order to get the Byshek needed to create the devices.

Baleshyra, with his ability to see from his room of eyes, has learned about this plan to open Khyber. Seeing an opportunity to free himself and his brethren trapped within Khyber, he has used a member of the party (Lilane) who he was able to influence thanks to her madness induced by addiction to agony (among other drugs). He continues to influence her to drive the party towards Droaam so that they can claim the device that the hags and lords are creating to free the rajahs.

I've been playing around with a couple other ideas too... It could be that our addict, driven mad by her various vices, only thinks that its Daelkyr that are influencing her when infact it is just the lords influencing the group to take down the hags when the time is right. It could also be that the Daelkyr, specifically Baleshyra, plan to hi-jack the device that the hags/lords are creating and use it to "bypass" the sealed gates, using Lilane as a vessel to escape his prison within Khyber...

Hope that served to clarify a bit better... Any thoughts?
#4
AvonRekaes
Jun 17, 2011 10:57:31 Byshek to me affects abberations a lot like how silver affects werewolves or holy water affects vampires. How bysehk exactly has this property isn't really explained. It could be that bysehk is "super-natural", as in, it embodies the natural world in some fundamental way, so much so that the reality-warping prescence of daelkyr and other abberations are just rejected by it.

So what makes byshek "super" natural? Maybe byshek is really the bones of Eberron, the primordial dragon. It would be like splashing a vampire with holy water made from Jesus's tears. It comes directly from the source that opposes them.
#5
Ogiwan
Jun 18, 2011 8:44:16 I like that idea about byshek, AR......
#6
Hellcow
Jun 22, 2011 13:49:45
So what makes byshek "super" natural? Maybe byshek is really the bones of Eberron, the primordial dragon. It would be like splashing a vampire with holy water made from Jesus's tears. It comes directly from the source that opposes them.

Seems like a sound theory to me!
#7
AvonRekaes
Jun 23, 2011 12:18:18
High praise! Now, it's official, I have to jot that down in my ECS as cannon. :P
#8
diamondj
Jun 24, 2011 11:07:08 I always rationalized it as a Kryptonite-Superman type weakness. Maybe it represents the innocence of Maddness
#9
sciborg3
Jun 28, 2011 22:22:09
Byshek to me affects abberations a lot like how silver affects werewolves or holy water affects vampires. How bysehk exactly has this property isn't really explained. It could be that bysehk is "super-natural", as in, it embodies the natural world in some fundamental way, so much so that the reality-warping prescence of daelkyr and other abberations are just rejected by it.

So what makes byshek "super" natural? Maybe byshek is really the bones of Eberron, the primordial dragon. It would be like splashing a vampire with holy water made from Jesus's tears. It comes directly from the source that opposes them.

I really like this, it's the same reasoning IMHO that druids are needed to stop Xoriat.

I decided this was why the dragons didn't stop the daelkyr from overrunning the world the first time around - as the children of Siberys they couldn't draw upon Eberron's power, only the true children of the planet could.

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#1 cujo90009 Jun 14, 2011 12:30:34	I am running a campaign of characters that we are shaping up to be the Villians of our next campaigns. The group has become a group of mobsters and drug pushers based in Sharn. The basis of the story is centered around a drug featured in the Book of Vile Darkness called Agony. We have shifted some of the properties of the drug around but still it is something that outsiders crave. The Idea is based on some Vedic beliefs that the thought of something can bring about a new god like figure. As a DM my idea is that the Lords of Dust, who as stated in the Eberron source materal, are working with the Hags of Droaam to proliferate the widespread use of Agony. The resulting addiction is a loophole to "free" the Daelkyr masters. (e.g. The daelkyr are embodiments of maddness and the addictions of the masses will free them by allowing them to influence the addicts). I was toying around with the idea of this addiction allowing the Daelkyr to influence those with aberrant dragon marks, or even reviving & changing the 13th mark. I was hoping for some good ideas reguarding that and possibly some more info and details about how Byshek is able to affect abberations... Thoughts? If you want more details of the campaign check out our OP site: www.obsidianportal.com/campaigns/demand-...
#2 Madfox11 Jun 16, 2011 4:14:30	Why would the Lords of Dust want the daelkyr to be freed? The daelkyr are just much an anethema to the Lords with the daelkyr wanting to change the world into a reflection of the Far Realm. The Lords of Dust simply want to rule the world, and it wouldn't much of a stretch to assume they actually like the current status quo. They have all those mortals to play with, and pain and suffering is all the worse when a victim can reflect it to the people who are suffering less ;) Or is it an unknown side effect of the drugs?
#3 cujo90009 Jun 16, 2011 11:13:08	I did not explain properly in my original post. My thought was more along the lines of this: The hags and lords of dust are working with agony (to use its abilty to create magical items) to release the rajahs. The hags plan to betray the lords at some point, and draw enough power to from the Rajahs to bolster their armies and claim their stake as a nation, which was denied to them during the treaty of thronehold. We have a house rule about extracting agony; it requires a special device constructed from byshek. The Lords needed to cooperate with the hags in order to get the Byshek needed to create the devices. Baleshyra, with his ability to see from his room of eyes, has learned about this plan to open Khyber. Seeing an opportunity to free himself and his brethren trapped within Khyber, he has used a member of the party (Lilane) who he was able to influence thanks to her madness induced by addiction to agony (among other drugs). He continues to influence her to drive the party towards Droaam so that they can claim the device that the hags and lords are creating to free the rajahs. I've been playing around with a couple other ideas too... It could be that our addict, driven mad by her various vices, only thinks that its Daelkyr that are influencing her when infact it is just the lords influencing the group to take down the hags when the time is right. It could also be that the Daelkyr, specifically Baleshyra, plan to hi-jack the device that the hags/lords are creating and use it to "bypass" the sealed gates, using Lilane as a vessel to escape his prison within Khyber... Hope that served to clarify a bit better... Any thoughts?
#4 AvonRekaes Jun 17, 2011 10:57:31	Byshek to me affects abberations a lot like how silver affects werewolves or holy water affects vampires. How bysehk exactly has this property isn't really explained. It could be that bysehk is "super-natural", as in, it embodies the natural world in some fundamental way, so much so that the reality-warping prescence of daelkyr and other abberations are just rejected by it. So what makes byshek "super" natural? Maybe byshek is really the bones of Eberron, the primordial dragon. It would be like splashing a vampire with holy water made from Jesus's tears. It comes directly from the source that opposes them.
#5 Ogiwan Jun 18, 2011 8:44:16	I like that idea about byshek, AR......
#6 Hellcow Jun 22, 2011 13:49:45	So what makes byshek "super" natural? Maybe byshek is really the bones of Eberron, the primordial dragon. It would be like splashing a vampire with holy water made from Jesus's tears. It comes directly from the source that opposes them. Seems like a sound theory to me!
#7 AvonRekaes Jun 23, 2011 12:18:18	High praise! Now, it's official, I have to jot that down in my ECS as cannon. :P
#8 diamondj Jun 24, 2011 11:07:08	I always rationalized it as a Kryptonite-Superman type weakness. Maybe it represents the innocence of Maddness
#9 sciborg3 Jun 28, 2011 22:22:09	Byshek to me affects abberations a lot like how silver affects werewolves or holy water affects vampires. How bysehk exactly has this property isn't really explained. It could be that bysehk is "super-natural", as in, it embodies the natural world in some fundamental way, so much so that the reality-warping prescence of daelkyr and other abberations are just rejected by it. So what makes byshek "super" natural? Maybe byshek is really the bones of Eberron, the primordial dragon. It would be like splashing a vampire with holy water made from Jesus's tears. It comes directly from the source that opposes them. I really like this, it's the same reasoning IMHO that druids are needed to stop Xoriat. I decided this was why the dragons didn't stop the daelkyr from overrunning the world the first time around - as the children of Siberys they couldn't draw upon Eberron's power, only the true children of the planet could.