Didn't I also read somewhere that Gem Dragons are the result of Quori experiments to breed incredibly powerful hosts? Would be another reason dragons would avoid it, look how they feel about half dragons. I can't imagine them feeling any better about the home of a race that meddled in their own development.
It's in a sidebar in Dragons of Eberron. I personally did not care for it.
Tying these too tidbits together, either they are scared to delve into the continent, or just refuse the idea of it's existence to it being not included in the all-knowing prophesy.
There's also a Volcano in Adar that is always surrounded by clouds. It is believe Blue Dragons watch over it due to a powerful Rajah being sealed there in the Demon War.
Didn't I also read somewhere that Gem Dragons are the result of Quori experiments to breed incredibly powerful hosts? Would be another reason dragons would avoid it, look how they feel about half dragons. I can't imagine them feeling any better about the home of a race that meddled in their own development.
It says it may be the reason, one of those up to the DM things.
It also list that abomination that looks like a dragon as a possible result of dragons experimenting with psionics.
There's also a Volcano in Adar that is always surrounded by clouds. It is believe Blue Dragons watch over it due to a powerful Rajah being sealed there in the Demon War.
Reread Spheres of Korrandar.
Reread Spheres of Korrandar.
Never read the whole thing, but it's still a Rajah sealed there, and guarded by Blue Dragons (Storm Guardians).
Never read the whole thing, but it's still a Rajah sealed there, and guarded by Blue Dragons (Storm Guardians).
Yeah, but I never got the impression that its a reason why the dragons do not bother with Sarlona much.
perhaps the properchy is affectting(as in make the signs)/"seeing" the world through the dragonshards, and as there arent any dragonshards in Sarlona neither is there any properchy
Yeah, but I never got the impression that its a reason why the dragons do not bother with Sarlona much.
Thread is called Dragons and Sarlona, not Why Do Dragons Ignore Sarlona
There are several places dragons exist in Sarlona but I think they avoid Adar for the most part. And the general avoidance of Sarlona is because as dragons meddle with psionics they go insane and become corrupted somehow. I believe the Eyes and perhaps the Light have forbidden the study of psionics so a lot of the dragons in Sarlona are rogues. But there's a great wyrm brass dragon cruising around Sarlona and there's the Storm Guardians.
Thread is called Dragons and Sarlona, not Why Do Dragons Ignore Sarlona
Read the OP again.
I have noticed that dragons, specifically those that study the prophecy stay away from Sarlona like it is the plague, but there has never been any information as to why. I think(can't remember clearly) there was something about how the prophecy does not even refer to it, almost as though the prophecy is blind to it.
However I was under the impression that the blindness of Sarlona to the prophecy, among other reasons* was why the dragons dont bother with it other than a few placed agents.
*I beleive one of the other reasons is that any involvement with Sarlona could prove detrimental to someone's existence in a future event. The dragons might not know what that event is, but they might know through process of elimination, that if it is directly associated with Sarlona.
I have not written this into my campaign yet because I want to know how what just has not been clarified yet, and what is up to the DM to decide specifically.
Its something for a DM to decide but to say there are no dragons present in Sarlona or to say that there are none who study the prophecy there is going against what's written about the subject in a sourcebook.
And the introduction to the Dragons of Sarlona section from Dragons of Eberron says that there are dragons in Adar who do study the prophecy. For whatever reason though the dragons aren't as interested in Sarlona as they are in Khorvaire. Likewise they're not as interested in Xen'drik as they are in Khorvaire. Sarlona is the homeland of the coatls so it could be something as simple as an ancient agreement to not infringe on each others land that the dragons have held true to to honor the coatls. Or it could be that the dragons fear the Dreaming Dark.
Its something for a DM to decide but to say there are no dragons present in Sarlona or to say that there are none who study the prophecy there is going against what's written about the subject in a sourcebook.
There are ancient places in Sarlona thay may have part of the prophecy, and the dragons have agents there, but as a whole they prefer to not be there or deal with psionics. I think it is wise to have agents in place to alert the other dragons on events that may take place, and to keep the quori where they are as much as they can without making it noticeable. It seems that the qouri would have moved in on Khovaire a long time ago without some outside influence.
bolded are is IMHO
Saying the dragons completely ignore or avoid Sarlona is a bit misleading. I'd say they're about as present in Sarlona as they are in Xen'drik. And those levels of involvement would probably be similar in Khorvaire except for the presence of Dragonmarks among the younger races.
And keep in mind that just because a prophecy mark appears somewhere doesn't mean the prophecy it contains is about that location. It seems that the point of Sarlona and its relation to the Prophecy is that the Prophecy doesn't say anything about the events of Sarlona. That doesn't mean the events of Sarlona can't say something about the rest of Eberron.
Regardless they've got Sarlona written up as an area which for some reason is not mentioned in the prophecy. And the reason why is up to the DM. But from material on Sarlona there are dragons in Sarlona, the majority of them rogues, some present to study the prophecy, or its absence, and there are dragons who dabble in psionics though most end up insane in one form or another.
Saying the dragons completely ignore or avoid Sarlona is a bit misleading. I'd say they're about as present in Sarlona as they are in Xen'drik. And those levels of involvement would probably be similar in Khorvaire except for the presence of Dragonmarks among the younger races.
And keep in mind that just because a prophecy mark appears somewhere doesn't mean the prophecy it contains is about that location. It seems that the point of Sarlona and its relation to the Prophecy is that the Prophecy doesn't say anything about the events of Sarlona. That doesn't mean the events of Sarlona can't say something about the rest of Eberron.
I was not saying they wont go there, but they will avoid it if possible, sending only a few, and I don't think the prophecy that is there is about Sarlona(directly). It could be about things that happened to Khovaire or any other place. I think the dragons have many reasons to keep agents there, but they only send a select few to go there. It is not like they are shaking in their claws, but more more like the situation where you only send in your best agents since it has to be done, and to use a real-life example that bad neighborhood that you only go through when you absolutely have to.
And you're right, the organized dragons of Argonnessen only send their best to study and serve in Sarlona but many rogues prefer life in Sarlona to the Vast or serving in the Light. And as to be expected there are many dragons born in Sarlona who never learn of the huge cultural heritage of the dragons.
These rogues and their offspring, though, are present in Sarlona, Xen'drik, and I suppose Khorvaire though there's a much larger organized interest in Khorvaire which overshadows the rogues.
There is also the fact the prophecy seems to lack knowledge about this area of the world, is a direct result of the war between the Giants and the Quori.
The prophecy was around before the Quori invasion, and if the prophecy stopped being relevant at that point it may have been the case, but there has been nothing written stating that Sarlona ever had anything written about it in the prophecy.
It just seems that for whatever reason Sarlona has a giant nondetection spell, for lack a better analogy, that blocks the prophecy.
This very thread is almost like the dragons discussing the draconic prophecy. Everyone seems to be reading and interpreting things a little bit differently.
Silly mortal! How could a dragon type, with all those err, big claws of them! These obviously huge and scaly things would never reveal their thoughts on the Interweb!
Now stop asking stupid questions!
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Mind if I steal it? Water ran under bridges (Or whatever how this expression is translated.) and my ''WotC killed Dragon Mag'' sounds like a grognard's.
Back to the subject at hand: In my game I'd say one of the reasons few dragons hang around Riedra would the will-weakening domes and the propension of leaders in the region to Mind Seed ''troublesome'' individuals. I guess snoopy flying lizards are in that category of visitors.
Done.
Back to the subject at hand: In my game I'd say one of the reasons few dragons hang around Riedra would the will-weakening domes and the propension of leaders in the region to Mind Seed ''troublesome'' individuals. I guess snoopy flying lizards are in that category of visitors.
That could be possible, but breaking a dragon's will is tough to do, and if he notices the attempt(just remember that only the host dies, not the quori).
I guess dragons might not want to be there.