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Eberron and 4E

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#1
ornito
May 29, 2008 15:43:50 Ok, I've only managed to leaf through a bit of the PHB so far and from what I'm seeing it seems like 4E is going to be really good to a setting like Eberron which recasts the races and their histories.

Primarily it seems really easy to just change around the skill bonuses each race gains and you've got a completely different feel for a familiar race. Probably just as easy is changing the at will powers a race may possess or the feat bonuses. Biggest that springs to mind is probably moving the half-elves diplomacy bonus over to the gnomes and simply replacing with a different skill bonus.
#2
orcish_envoy
May 29, 2008 17:45:30 I was thinking of playing Eberron with 4e myself but I am worried about how to work in Teiflings and Dragonborn. Any ideas for me?
#3
Edymnion
May 29, 2008 17:50:47
I was thinking of playing Eberron with 4e myself but I am worried about how to work in Teiflings and Dragonborn. Any ideas for me?

Just don't use them?
#4
johnnyarkham
May 29, 2008 18:30:48 Teiflings could simply be those born in specific manifest zones, and Dragonborn could be from Argonessen or just emerging from somewhere deep w/in Xendrick.

Sky's the limit
#5
orcish_envoy
May 29, 2008 19:36:35 OOO i realy like the Xen'drik dragonborn idea. Maybe teiflings could be from the Deman Wastes. Dose that sound viable?
#6
chrys
May 29, 2008 19:49:24 No I think the Half-elfs should keep there stats the way they are, I don't know what gnomes get, other then a inviablty power but they should work with a little tweeking.

in my game The Dragon born are going to be a realtively 'new' race of lizardfolk from Qubarra that have gained there powers through worship of dragons.

Tieffers are going to be from that one Sarlona countiy that made pacts and stuff before the Quori took over.
#7
ornito
May 30, 2008 1:47:02 I think Keith mentioned looking at the tiefling's as being planetouched in some way or another and I kind of was thinking about using them as sort of an ancient enemy or target of the quori. The idea being that now when tiefling's sleep they project their dreams into some other plane to avoid the quori and depending on which plane they project themselves into effects their personality. Gives sufficient reason for there not to be a huge central community of them in one location and makes them feel like they've got a story in Eberron.

As for the dragonborn my first thought is to place them as some of the first druids, perhaps spawn of Vvaraak. Though thinking about it I might like to use the idea that the Sovereigns are all just ascended dragons and cast the dragonborn as the chosen clerics of the sovereign host. Obviously I wouldn't want them in every single church across Khorvaire, but certainly it would make some sense in most of the holy sites of Argonnessen to have a dragonborn tending to the area. They'd probably feature heavily in Io'vakar (hopefully that's the one that didn't get destroyed). Or throw feathers on them and make them them descendants of coatls. Perhaps something that expressed in dragon eggs which coatls had been around which could lead rise to the reason coatls stayed primarily in Sarlona and dragons in Argonnessen. Eventually played out to the reason dragons tend to avoid Sarlona because there's a high chance that creatures who aren't true dragons will hatch from eggs there.

And I guess my thought process on the ability to change races to fit the world is that all of the races look to have about the same type of abilities. A couple stat bonuses, a couple skill bonuses and some other stuff which seems so far to be roughly analogous in strength. In my mind this makes it pretty easy to take a skill bonus from one race and switch it with another race's skill bonus without unbalancing things. It lets the DM change the flavor without making overpowered or underpowered races.

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#1 ornito May 29, 2008 15:43:50	Ok, I've only managed to leaf through a bit of the PHB so far and from what I'm seeing it seems like 4E is going to be really good to a setting like Eberron which recasts the races and their histories. Primarily it seems really easy to just change around the skill bonuses each race gains and you've got a completely different feel for a familiar race. Probably just as easy is changing the at will powers a race may possess or the feat bonuses. Biggest that springs to mind is probably moving the half-elves diplomacy bonus over to the gnomes and simply replacing with a different skill bonus.
#2 orcish_envoy May 29, 2008 17:45:30	I was thinking of playing Eberron with 4e myself but I am worried about how to work in Teiflings and Dragonborn. Any ideas for me?
#3 Edymnion May 29, 2008 17:50:47	I was thinking of playing Eberron with 4e myself but I am worried about how to work in Teiflings and Dragonborn. Any ideas for me? Just don't use them?
#4 johnnyarkham May 29, 2008 18:30:48	Teiflings could simply be those born in specific manifest zones, and Dragonborn could be from Argonessen or just emerging from somewhere deep w/in Xendrick. Sky's the limit
#5 orcish_envoy May 29, 2008 19:36:35	OOO i realy like the Xen'drik dragonborn idea. Maybe teiflings could be from the Deman Wastes. Dose that sound viable?
#6 chrys May 29, 2008 19:49:24	No I think the Half-elfs should keep there stats the way they are, I don't know what gnomes get, other then a inviablty power but they should work with a little tweeking. in my game The Dragon born are going to be a realtively 'new' race of lizardfolk from Qubarra that have gained there powers through worship of dragons. Tieffers are going to be from that one Sarlona countiy that made pacts and stuff before the Quori took over.
#7 ornito May 30, 2008 1:47:02	I think Keith mentioned looking at the tiefling's as being planetouched in some way or another and I kind of was thinking about using them as sort of an ancient enemy or target of the quori. The idea being that now when tiefling's sleep they project their dreams into some other plane to avoid the quori and depending on which plane they project themselves into effects their personality. Gives sufficient reason for there not to be a huge central community of them in one location and makes them feel like they've got a story in Eberron. As for the dragonborn my first thought is to place them as some of the first druids, perhaps spawn of Vvaraak. Though thinking about it I might like to use the idea that the Sovereigns are all just ascended dragons and cast the dragonborn as the chosen clerics of the sovereign host. Obviously I wouldn't want them in every single church across Khorvaire, but certainly it would make some sense in most of the holy sites of Argonnessen to have a dragonborn tending to the area. They'd probably feature heavily in Io'vakar (hopefully that's the one that didn't get destroyed). Or throw feathers on them and make them them descendants of coatls. Perhaps something that expressed in dragon eggs which coatls had been around which could lead rise to the reason coatls stayed primarily in Sarlona and dragons in Argonnessen. Eventually played out to the reason dragons tend to avoid Sarlona because there's a high chance that creatures who aren't true dragons will hatch from eggs there. And I guess my thought process on the ability to change races to fit the world is that all of the races look to have about the same type of abilities. A couple stat bonuses, a couple skill bonuses and some other stuff which seems so far to be roughly analogous in strength. In my mind this makes it pretty easy to take a skill bonus from one race and switch it with another race's skill bonus without unbalancing things. It lets the DM change the flavor without making overpowered or underpowered races.