Fitting Kobold Manor in to Eberron

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#1

DrWorm

Jul 02, 2008 0:57:20
Okay, perhaps I am obsessing over details here but I am running my son through through this as a intro to 4th edition. I am keeping it in the eberron world, so there is the ocassional detail I need to tweak. In the adventure the players are sent in to seek out a green dragon hide, but as I understand it there would be no such thing in eberron. What would be a decent substitution?
#2

evilnerf

Jul 02, 2008 1:17:36
Easiest fix I could see would be a Dragonshard, but I don't see any real problem with using the hide as-is. In eberron, the dragons are more aloof, but their hide is still valuable as a crafting material, probably even moreso and not all beings would have qualms about hunting dragons without consideration for sentience.

Also, you could always just use another adventure hook. For example, I'm doing the same adventure with the "Terrible Secret" hook by replacing Fairhaven with Fort Orcbane, old wizard with House Orien and the King's Road with the road between Greywall and Orcbane.
#3

evilnerf

Jul 02, 2008 1:23:49
Double post
#4

DrWorm

Jul 02, 2008 1:25:57
Easiest fix I could see would be a Dragonshard, but I don't see any real problem with using the hide as-is. In eberron, the dragons are more aloof, but their hide is still valuable as a crafting material, probably even moreso and not all beings would have qualms about hunting dragons without consideration for sentience.

Also, you could always just use another adventure hook. For example, I'm doing the same adventure with the "Terrible Secret" hook by replacing Fairhaven with Fort Orcbane, old wizard with House Orien and the King's Road with the road between Greywall and Orcbane.

I have only read the Eberron campaign setting and parts of two novels, so I was under the assumption that dragons were more myth in Eberron.
#5

Nived

Jul 02, 2008 1:49:08
Nah people know they exist, same way I know a Tazmanian Devil exists though I've never seen one. Its just something that's on the other side of the planet.

But just to ease your concern one of Keith's short Eberron stories (from Dragons Worlds Afire) had a polymorphed silver dragon getting her head cut off in sharn. Everyone was very surprised when the headless body of a silver dragon came bursting out the side of an airship over Sharn (they revert back to original form when dead). Don't worry I didn't spoil anything in that story, that's the murder mystery that has to be solved, that's all just the set up. Yeah everyone was utterly stunned, a dragon... in SHARN who ever heard of such a thing!
#6

evilnerf

Jul 02, 2008 1:53:31
They definitely exist, but they're much more aloof and mysterious in Eberron. For one, color is no longer an issue of alignment. All dragons are searching for clues to the "Draconic Prophecy." They aren't very likely to hole up like Szarthrax does but it's not beyond the realm of possibility. They are more likely to transform into a librarian and look through the king's library for clues then steal cattle. That said, there are still ones around. They are just incredibly hard to find.
#7

mhacdebhandia

Jul 02, 2008 21:11:24
Nah people know they exist, same way I know a Tazmanian Devil exists though I've never seen one.

You spell Tasmanian with an S. The island state is named for Abel Tasman, who was the Dutch explorer who discovered it (though he named it Van Diemen's Land, after the then-Governor-General of the Dutch East Indies). There are a lot of things named "Tasman" in Australia and New Zealand.
#8

Nived

Jul 02, 2008 22:53:52
Irregardless!

/sarcasm
#9

mystrich

Jul 02, 2008 23:48:59
You spell Tasmanian with an S. The island state is named for Abel Tasman, who was the Dutch explorer who discovered it (though he named it Van Diemen's Land, after the then-Governor-General of the Dutch East Indies). There are a lot of things named "Tasman" in Australia and New Zealand.

Perhaps he means the cartoon character.

Also, many people do consider them myths. Elves know they do, as would probably many scholars. But other than their former war with the elves centuries ago, no one has seen one. If someone knew about them though, they would only know they are extremely powerful beings who live on an island no one has ever returned from.

The above suggestion was right probably, as Dragonshards are going to be a huge resource in Eberron. Say it has special properties of protection. I don't know the exact adventure, but one of Eberrons rare metals may also work as a replacement.
#10

DrWorm

Jul 03, 2008 2:46:48
Perhaps he means the cartoon character.

Also, many people do consider them myths. Elves know they do, as would probably many scholars. But other than their former war with the elves centuries ago, no one has seen one. If someone knew about them though, they would only know they are extremely powerful beings who live on an island no one has ever returned from.

The above suggestion was right probably, as Dragonshards are going to be a huge resource in Eberron. Say it has special properties of protection. I don't know the exact adventure, but one of Eberrons rare metals may also work as a replacement.

Yea, I decided that the dwarf in question is asking after his "dragon hide" but it will turn out to be a sheet of some other kind of scales, something of an exotic nature, but not something the PCs can use on their own for the time being. I want my son to have a tough time deciding to turn over the quest item and get the xp, or keep it and make use of it later on.
#11

mistress_of_mockery

Jul 03, 2008 7:59:14
Call me crazy, but I snatched away it's fly speed and called it a Winter Wolf. My players didn't notice/care. It was pretty epic, actually. The real question is why a bunch of kobolds have a Winter Wolf in their basement.