Gods in Eberron

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#1

MinotaurLord

Oct 23, 2009 15:57:39

Hey folks,


I am making a Githzerai Avenger for a Eberron campaign and I am wondering what the equivalent gods are for Ioun or Kord in the Eberron setting.


Thanks for the help!

#2

ellorin

Oct 23, 2009 16:09:39

Among the Sovereign Host(the most widespread pantheon) the equivalents are Aureon(god of magic&knowledge) and Dol Dorn(god of physical prowess, courage, duty and war) respectively. The Path of Light (physical and mental emprovement, progress, freedom, meditation and communion with the positive force called the Great Light) may work too.

#3

Gilo

Oct 24, 2009 10:20:25

Considering the history of the Githzerai race: losing their home world (Pharagos) to the Daelkyr. A refugee ex-slave race which believes that worshiping a god is a form of slavery you can also consider some Dark Six gods:


The Shadow,The Fury (seeking revenge on the Daelkyr or maybe on the Sovereign host itself for failing the Gith race).

#4

Ogiwan

Oct 24, 2009 22:09:55

Conversely, if they're uber anti-Daelkyr, Gatekeepers.

#5

Hellcow

Oct 25, 2009 10:36:37

The Path of Light (physical and mental emprovement, progress, freedom, meditation and communion with the positive force called the Great Light) may work too.


As a side note, the followers of the Path don't actually commune with il-Yannah, because it doesn't exist yet. The Great Light is what the Dreaming Dark will become when the age turns. It's really a translation error as much as anything; it should be "The Path TO Light". For now, meditate and find the light within your soul, or find it in those around you. It will come to the world in time.
#6

Ogiwan

Oct 25, 2009 16:22:05

Huh. So, whereas the quest for nirvana is goodness and happiness within oneself, Il-Yannah is the quest for goodness and happiness outside oneself/in Dal Quor?

#7

Hellcow

Oct 25, 2009 16:44:17

Huh. So, whereas the quest for nirvana is goodness and happiness within oneself, Il-Yannah is the quest for goodness and happiness outside oneself/in Dal Quor?


Well, technically speaking, as the plane of Dreams, Dal Quor is actually "in" all living creatures. It's shaped by the world and it shapes the world, according to the Kalashtar. So by finding peace within, you move closer to the transition of the age... that will hopefully bring that peace to others.
#8

PJammaGod

Oct 26, 2009 11:19:31

It's the Dream of the Age, the unconsciouss gesalt awareness of every being that dreams. It reflects and reverberates through us. We gaze into it and it gazes back. So yeah while it's the Dreaming Dark right now, we feel the dark and the dark pushes back. Normally it should swing back and forth like a pendulum. But then you've got the current age of Quori messing around with the natural order of things...

#9

vharuck

Oct 27, 2009 16:11:15


It's the Dream of the Age, the unconsciouss gesalt awareness of every being that dreams. It reflects and reverberates through us. We gaze into it and it gazes back. So yeah while it's the Dreaming Dark right now, we feel the dark and the dark pushes back. Normally it should swing back and forth like a pendulum. But then you've got the current age of Quori messing around with the natural order of things...





Because the previous age's Quori left the hotel room that is Eberron in a great state when they checked out, right?  Funny, I seem to remember there being another moon, but I haven't noticed it lately... Tongue out
#10

Madfox11

Oct 28, 2009 3:59:12


It's the Dream of the Age, the unconsciouss gesalt awareness of every being that dreams. It reflects and reverberates through us. We gaze into it and it gazes back. So yeah while it's the Dreaming Dark right now, we feel the dark and the dark pushes back. Normally it should swing back and forth like a pendulum. But then you've got the current age of Quori messing around with the natural order of things...





Because the previous age's Quori left the hotel room that is Eberron in a great state when they checked out, right?  Funny, I seem to remember there being another moon, but I haven't noticed it lately...

Considering how the giants treated the eladrin, I wouldn't automatically assume the Quori are to blame for that.
#11

ellorin

Oct 28, 2009 7:06:06

I wonder what the OP chose...

#12

PJammaGod

Oct 28, 2009 9:55:31



It's the Dream of the Age, the unconsciouss gesalt awareness of every being that dreams. It reflects and reverberates through us. We gaze into it and it gazes back. So yeah while it's the Dreaming Dark right now, we feel the dark and the dark pushes back. Normally it should swing back and forth like a pendulum. But then you've got the current age of Quori messing around with the natural order of things...





Because the previous age's Quori left the hotel room that is Eberron in a great state when they checked out, right?  Funny, I seem to remember there being another moon, but I haven't noticed it lately...



Judging from how the Giants tended to treat all those around them (blood sacrifice, tainted magic, corruption etc etc), I'm not suprised that the Quori may very well have gone after the Giants on puprose. Remember the dreams of the mortal are reflected back into the Dreamheart. Can you imagine what the dreams of the oppressed and crushed Elves would be, their spirits broken as they watch generation after generation sacrificed. How about the Dragons, their possible heirs to such vast knowledge falling so low.


It's more than likely that the Giants were speeding up the turning of the age and the Quori didn't want that, it was almost unnatural. So they decide to push back, for the greater good, much as the Couatl did millenia before. And the giants in their Hubris shatter a moon just to ensure their power remains.


In the end I think the Giants caused more harm than good.

#13

ellorin

Oct 28, 2009 17:09:38




It's the Dream of the Age, the unconsciouss gesalt awareness of every being that dreams. It reflects and reverberates through us. We gaze into it and it gazes back. So yeah while it's the Dreaming Dark right now, we feel the dark and the dark pushes back. Normally it should swing back and forth like a pendulum. But then you've got the current age of Quori messing around with the natural order of things...





Because the previous age's Quori left the hotel room that is Eberron in a great state when they checked out, right?  Funny, I seem to remember there being another moon, but I haven't noticed it lately...



Judging from how the Giants tended to treat all those around them (blood sacrifice, tainted magic, corruption etc etc)





According to Dragons of Eberron, all these practices didn't become a norm until the Quori invaded and the Giants' initial failure to repel them, forcing them to employ desperate measures.

#14

Hellcow

Oct 28, 2009 17:21:59

According to Dragons of Eberron, all these practices didn't become a norm until the Quori invaded and the Giants' initial failure to repel them, forcing them to employ desperate measures.


Well, technically it's "until the quori came to Eberron", not "invaded"... unless you place all your trust in the victors and their history books. Looking to the quote from DoE:


Then the quori came to Xen’drik. The motivation for this extraplanar incursion remains a mystery, but
the giant records portray the quori simply as ruthless invaders. Other evidence suggests that the quori merely sought refuge from a disaster on their own plane, or even retaliation against acts of aggression instigated by the lords of Xen’drik. Whatever the root of the war, it was a struggle that lasted for centuries. Powerful mystical and psionic forces were unleashed by both sides, and, in time, nearly all the arcane knowledge the giants possessed was turned to the war effort.


While the giants as a species were no more inherently evil than any other mortal race - and while they possessed a number of different cultures with different values - it's clear that some among them were aggressive long before the arrival of the quori. They enslaved the elves well before that struggle; it was the Quori conflict that weakened the giants enough for the elves to rise up against them. Per the ECG, the elves were the product of mystical experiments after one of the giant nations sacked the Xen'drik feyspire... so the concept that the Quori conflict could have been the result of giant aggression certainly has some plausibility.