I could imagine a heavily upgraded iron defender with strength enhancements, wearing mithril chain shirt, being effective...
How useful are they?
If you're just playing to see how fast you can kill the monsters, the homonculi are essentially worthless. The fact that you compare them to the druid's animal companion (which is often a formidable opponent in it's own right) tends to lead me into thinking this is the answer you would be looking for.
In a more roleplaying heavy game, they become increasingly valuable.
The messanger is an incredibly useful communication tool and spy satellite, the dedicated wright a must have for heavy crafting artificers, etc.
They are useful tools that don't actually help you kill things.
How useful they will be to you depends mainly on how much of the game you are in is focused on killing things.
Facing an Artificer with Iron Defenders is usually an easier fight than just the artificer alone. The IDs are going to have relatively few hitpoints, cause pretty good damage against the Artificer when they are destroyed, and it means the Artificer himself has substandard armor and weapons because he poured all of his wealth into the defenders.
Nah, homunculi are pretty weak combatants almost by definition. If how fast you can kill things is your primary goal, then you're much better off beefing up your weapons and armor than making these things.
The other ones are good for their niche. The messenger can be handy, the filcher is the same (as long as you only attempt to filch from lower-ranking enemies) and the wright is fantastic if you have limited down-time and want to get back on the road ASAP between adventures - especially if you have a home-base or portable hole.
If you don't treat them like combatants they're greate
can be a lot of fun if i remember correctly.
KAMIKAZE!
These things are not frail.
Add in the Improve Homunculi feat and a regular upgrade schedule (which can be discounted by feats an Artificer is already going to want to get) and your Homunculus can definitely be an aid in battle.
I'm a little puzzled by the "relatively frail" comment. Homunculi get construct hit dice - for the Iron Defender that means 2d10+10 per HD
For the standard iron defender, that means 2d10+10 hps. It can be advanced up to a 6 HD iron defender (for an extra 8,000 gp) in which case it gets 6d10+10 hps.
The bonus hit points based on size is a flat bonus, not a bonus per hit die. With no damage reduction, that's pretty fragile.
er, no, that would be 2d10 hp per HD, not 1d10. A 6HD Iron Defender would have 12d10+10.
I think you've mis-read something some where, a "hit die" is just what it says 1 die rolled to determine hit points. A creature with 12d10+10 hp has 12 Hit Dice...
It costs massive amounts of gold to increase this thing one lousy hitdice at a time, meaning it will only be able to match the fighter in terms of abuse taking if you sink pretty much your entire character wealth into it, at which point you would have been better off spending that money buffing the actual fighter or yourself.
Yes, the base ID has 2d10+10 hp. You do not gain another 2d10+10 per hitdice, as those 2d10 hp are by definition hitdice.
It costs massive amounts of gold to increase this thing one lousy hitdice at a time, meaning it will only be able to match the fighter in terms of abuse taking if you sink pretty much your entire character wealth into it, at which point you would have been better off spending that money buffing the actual fighter or yourself.
Ok, either the ECS list the Iron Defender as a 2HD homunculus and all the others as 1HD homunculi, or you are wrong. When you increase a creature's HD, you give it another set of it's base HD (according to the MM), so for the Iron Defender, that should be another 2d10. Why would this not be the case?
*edit* on further inspection, it looks like they really did just give the Iron Defender 2HD and all the others 1HD. Frankly, this seems ridiculous and dumb to me, but so it goes.
When you increase a creature's HD, you give it another set of it's base HD (according to the MM), so for the Iron Defender, that should be another 2d10. Why would this not be the case?
A "set of its base HD" refers to the type of the die (i.e. d10 or d8), not the number. If that was not the case... well, look at the frost giant, a CR 9 monster with 14 HD. Would you really say a 28HD frost giant is a CR 10 opponent?
Oh, and the flat construct bonus is explained in the construct type in MM glossary.
. Quite handy if you plan on playing something similar to the following: Artificer 5/Alchemist savant 5/ canith wand adept 3/ dragonmarked heir 5
can be a lot of fun if i remember correctly.
KAMIKAZE!
or if ur playin a wizard5/ alchemist savant 5/ alchemist (Faerun) 10.... full wizard casting and able to brew 6 (i think) potions per day and brew up to 9th level spells into potions... he he he! So utterly house of a 1000 corpses evil!
or if ur playin a wizard5/ alchemist savant 5/ alchemist (Faerun) 10.... full wizard casting and able to brew 6 (i think) potions per day and brew up to 9th level spells into potions... he he he! So utterly house of a 1000 corpses evil!
Just a word of caution: mentioning anything from the Forgotten Realms on the Eberron forums isn't exactly guaranteed to make you friends. A lot of people have embraced Eberron as the anti-FR for not contributing heavily to the power creep.
How would you rule as a DM?
I wonder if an arbilester may recive a PERSONAL Weapon Enhancement?
How would you rule as a DM?
No, if it were your familiar, I might consider it since familiars are supposed to be extensions of their masters. Which, actually, if you dipped into Wizard or Sorcerer and took Improved Familiar, you *COULD* take it as your familiar, but normally no. The homunculi is a seperate creature from you, and as such could not benefit from Personal Weapon Enchantment.
One of the nice things about the arbilester is that the crossbow part is considered to be a seperate weapon for the sake of magical enhancements, while permanently enhancing the natural attack of another kind of humun. requires the Imp. Humun. feat.
You missed the part where the Imp. Homunc. feats gives the natural weapons the magical enhancements FOR FREE.
You missed the part where the Imp. Homunc. feats gives the natural weapons the magical enhancements FOR FREE.
At which point it gets an enchanted bite attack. It has a crossbow attack, not a ranged natural weapon attack.
I've read too much Discworld... I want a pack mate just because.
In the current campaign I'm in the Artificer's Homunculous is based off that character. (I don't read Discworld, the DM does)
At which point it gets an enchanted bite attack. It has a crossbow attack, not a ranged natural weapon attack.
I was saying why it's more useful to have a non-arbalester with Improved Homunculus, as their natural weapons are upgraded for free, as opposed to paying full price to enhance your highly-vulnerable HP bomb.
er, no, that would be 2d10 hp per HD, not 1d10. A 6HD Iron Defender would have 12d10+10.
In addition to the responses above... the "+10" hit points comes from a bonus that all Constructs receive based on size. So this + would only increase after it increased it's size to Medium (or larger), which I'm not even sure is possible for an Iron Defender.
I feel the Dedicated Wright + Portable Hole was always a fantastic option for any adventuring Artificer... Just stick it in the hole so it can build while you're on your merry.
I was saying why it's more useful to have a non-arbalester with Improved Homunculus, as their natural weapons are upgraded for free, as opposed to paying full price to enhance your highly-vulnerable HP bomb.
Feats are not free! They are far more rare than XP or gold. And even with the feat, using standard enchantments on the crossbow allows to use the benefits of Imp. Homun. in additional ways, such as an increase in Dex..
My players are very happy with the homunculus as a information gather similar to a familiar. They make great spies and comunication tools.
My players are very happy with the homunculus as a information gather similar to a familiar. They make great spies and comunication tools.
Personally, I'd see them as slightly inferior. Of course the messenger makes a wonderful spy - but when people spot a raven sitting on a tree, they probably won't think they're being spied on, which is exactly what they would suppose when seeing a messenger.
Still, they are pretty useful in that regard.
Personally, I'd see them as slightly inferior. Of course the messenger makes a wonderful spy - but when people spot a raven sitting on a tree, they probably won't think they're being spied on, which is exactly what they would suppose when seeing a messenger.
Still, they are pretty useful in that regard.
Ravens? Every raven I see I assume is a familiar. Most DMs don't mention every single small creature the party passes on its way, but if the DM says something about a raven, I immediately think "familiar." So basically I just shoot at every raven-like bird I see. Same goes with rats, cats, toads (but not frogs), bats, snakes (tiny vipers only, of course), hawks, owls, lizards, and weasels. If I'm in an aquatic environment, I go after parrots and octopi as well. And if said creature is sitting on the shoulder of some long-bearded dude wearing robes and a pointy hat, so much the better. Basically, I spend a lot of time whacking small creatures, so much so that I rarely do any real adventuring. Considering how dangerous even a raven, rat, or cat can be to the average commoner, I figure I'm protecting the vast majority of the people of Eberron.
Of course, I'm totally joking.
And how do you protect yourself against the multitude of possible druid animal companions?
@Euangelion
And how do you protect yourself against the multitude of possible druid animal companions?
Like I said, I spend a lot of time killing small creatures, and sometimes larger ones, even as big as horses. But you're onto something. Any animal might even be a wildshaped druid! Kill! Kill! Kill! Mwahahahahaha!!!
(Actually, no one really likes travelling with me for some reason.)
;)
It really matters what feats you give him. Like Power Attack works nice being he only has one attack and gets the 1+1/2 str mod going. Which kind of leads to the double value of the feat... (though this caps at a -3/+6 mod) and of course Impoved natural attack at 6th is kind of a no brainer as is the +1 to dex at 4th.
Now while the Improved Homuinculous feat may hint at a continued progression, allowing an Iron Defender further HD, feats and skills as your artificer grows, it is far from decisive.
Much like how many spells you can write onto a scroll.
Then there's the issue of the just how many HD a particular homuculus can have. Again the rules are unclear, since there's a limited progression listed in the entries, but as you pointed out, the Imp. Hom. feat implies that the progression can go to any amount. If a DM doesn't feel comfortable with either extreem, a possible middle ground would be to allow the extra progression only with the Imp. Homunculus feat.
Finally, IF someone can have only one homunculus with a limited number of HD, I still recommend the arbalester, taking the fly speed improvement if one has the Imp. Hom. feat. That way it can serve in a limited role as a spy, as well as a protector.
How many can you afford?
There is a natural limit on how many you may have.
How many can you afford?
That's what I was alluding to: How many can you afford and how many can you afford to go 2D10-boom in front of your nose?
But on a similar note having a sawrm of Iron defenders on hand is kind of asking for a fireball. Fireballs being one of the things Iron defenders have a lot of trouble with.
The Good things to remember about the Iron defender is that it is a genuine construct, not like a warforged. As such he almost completly immune to any number of special attacks a rogue or rogue assasin could think to use.
Still there retirement is inevitable.
One could enchant the jaws, make them a +5 Keen, Ghost touch, vicious, wounding weapon. Or enchant the beasties metal hide to make it a +5 greater Silent moves, Greater Shadow, SR 19, In a vain attempt of increasing it's usefulness...
You wind up with a creature with an average max HP of 43 that costs 193,000 Gold And 15440 XP and a year to build.
Just take your Iron defender to the park around level 11... play a few games of fetch, maybe a game of tug of war... Let him chase some birds. All the while you'll be draing his essence. He won't mind too much. His meaning in pseodo life is to serve you, hence he will appreciate his pseudo death being to serve you.
Might even be ebough to make that new ring you want to forge a good idea.
Some of the more oddly shaped homunculi might need specially sized armor.
Humanoid-shaped homuns like the furtive filcher and the dedicated wright should be able to have standard armor for their size, anything with wings would need modified armor, the iron defender and the walking chest-thing would need barding, and the Prophesy only knows what an arbalester would require! ;)
Anyway, I don't think Homonculi of any kind were designed as major combatants. They are secondary combatants, setting up flanking with a rogue (also good if you give them the Sneak Attack option), disrupting enemy spellcasters (forcing them to cast Defensively or by trying to trip them when they cast) and 'krill killers' (taking on the low level enemies freeing your major hitters to take on the big guys).
If you really want a heavy hitter at higher level, I'd suggest a golem or something.
Ummm... Anything else would be kind of silly. Squander your mithral on armour and shields and let us not speek of the Mythral Defender or his big game breaking brother Adamantine Defender.
And I was thinking about using Some of the things in Magic of Faerun. Copper, platinum, silver, living metal, and darksteel. A but of acid/sonic/ etc resistance, or some additional dex wouldn't be half bad.
Also, can they be enchanted themselves?
Ummm... Anything else would be kind of silly.
Er... why?
In the Epic Level Handbook, there are golems made of Mithral and Adamantine, so you've basically got two options: Either you coat your defender in it which makes the material basically to an armor - use standard armor rules. Or you build them from it entirely, which will make them rather... expensive. Think about how much a relatively thin full plate for a halfling costs - and now think how much more of the stuff you will need for an entire being.
What comes out of this would be up to your DM.
And bam what do we see but a mini Warforged Titan. Not quite as silly as I thought it was.
The Mythral Defender would probably get +2 dex, a +10 to speed and weigh half as much as normal. And get Weapon Finnesse instead of Weapon Focus as a first feat.
Mind you I have no idea how cripplingly expensive a solid dog shaped monster made enitrely of a metal worth almost as much per pound as cut diamonds.
In other words, at 36,000 gp, you ain't gonna be seein many of dem around town.
Purple Mournlode is cheep and would turn your iron defender into an undead and caster wrecking machine, resisting spells and bypassing undea DR.
Darksteel would grant acid resistance and add electrical damage to it's attacks.
Arandur would grant keen and sonic resistance.
Riedran Crysteel would be nice for the homunculus of anyone with psionics.
Heck, duskwood, darkwood, weirwood and the pinicle for wood, Livewood that still has its dryad.
Just a few things to keep in mind.:D :D
- Tonka Tough Steel -- same as Adamantine Body, only yellow.
- Teflon -- homi gets +5 to escape artist checks and gooey monster parts don't stick to him after the battle.
- Surgical Steel -- he slices, he dices, just look at that tomato!
- Nerf -- same as Unarmored, only safe for kids age 3 and up.
- Hemp -- same as Darkwood Body, only really far out! I mean like I can see through time far out!
Ummm... Anything else would be kind of silly.
Er... why?
We need a "New And Improved Homunculus" feat!
- Tonka Tough Steel -- same as Adamantine Body, only yellow.
- Teflon -- homi gets +5 to escape artist checks and gooey monster parts don't stick to him after the battle.
- Surgical Steel -- he slices, he dices, just look at that tomato!
- Nerf -- same as Unarmored, only safe for kids age 3 and up.
- Hemp -- same as Darkwood Body, only really far out! I mean like I can see through time far out!
I mean, who didn't see we where headed this way?
Keep in mind carrying capacity restrictions, especially with Small- and Tiny-sized creatures.
Humanoid-shaped homuns like the furtive filcher and the dedicated wright should be able to have standard armor for their size, anything with wings would need modified armor, the iron defender and the walking chest-thing would need barding, and the Prophesy only knows what an arbalester would require! ;)
Outstanding! A furtive Filcher with a shadow, silent-move, +1 leather armor! Give it some gloves of dexterity on top of that and you've serious upgraded its filching abilities!
Bertman
Outstanding! A furtive Filcher with a shadow, silent-move, +1 leather armor! Give it some gloves of dexterity on top of that and you've serious upgraded its filching abilities!
...and its price...
The Damage Reduction, Mighty Rage, Spell and Energy resistance might be a bit too much. Oh well, you can't have everything, I guess.
I really think about implanting a portable hole into the Lug- er, the Packmate... and giving it more feet...
The Damage Reduction, Mighty Rage, Spell and Energy resistance might be a bit too much. Oh well, you can't have everything, I guess.
My DM did something like that to our Artificer's Packmate. It was even named Luggage.
(As shown my various npc characters in various Eberron materials ;) )
So depending on where you were going.. an Artificer with a small pack of Iron Defenders to run interference for him against all those pesky melee adventurers... a Winged Messenger to scout around from on high and report back...
That's not taking into account any use of Improved Homunculus Feat, or Save-vs-Dm's "Homunculus Master" PrC.
It really all depends on how you want to play the Artificer and how imaginative you are at utilising your Homculi and own abilities.
So depending on where you were going.. an Artificer with a small pack of Iron Defenders to run interference for him against all those pesky melee adventurers...
As has already been said: 2D10 per destroyed homunculus. 2D10 per homunculus caught in an AoE spell.
That's exactly the reason I wouldn't bring along multiple combat homunculi.
And the key point is you use them intelligently. You give them orders to hit and run, you use them to distract the people trying to kill you. You don't keep them clustered in a group that lets one mage lob a fireball at them.
That, and you keep an Arbalester close to you to shoot at any Wizardy type to distract them.
Plus, if you are using your Homunculi to help defend yourself, you give them a few boosts with your Infusions.
It's only the HD cap that makes them less then an animal companion.
If there was no cap and there where actual rules for special upgrades to the construct, (Why should you spend a feat for wings when you should be able to pay the GP and XP cost for them? or failing that an actual Homunculous Feat) They would be the bee's knees.
Or with things like Combat Expertise and Improved Feint, Improved Disarm..
Have multiple homunculi using aid other and flanking type actions...
They're just nice if you actually think of ways to utilise them rather then just throw them at the enemy.
Have them with Dodge, Mobility, and if they've got enough hit dice, Spring Attack..
Or with things like Combat Expertise and Improved Feint, Improved Disarm..
Have multiple homunculi using aid other and flanking type actions...
They're just nice if you actually think of ways to utilise them rather then just throw them at the enemy.
HEHEHEE! I like the way you think! Two Adimantium (Spelling?) Defenders with the swarm fighting feat, one with improved sunder and one with Flay. Hmm... now, if they could just get Evasion. Ah! they can! so throw lightning reflexes on and improved toughness. Break the armor and flay the flesh. Evasion, L.R., and Imp Toughness is to help lessen the damage from area castings.
Yes? no?
HEHEHEE! I like the way you think! Two Adimantium (Spelling?) Defenders with the swarm fighting feat,
Obdurium, from stronghold builders guide. 60? (IIRC) hardness. Then magically harden it with the spell from the same book.
Thus mostly immune to physical/energy attacks.
Hardness: Each object has hardness—a number that represents how well it resists damage. Whenever an object takes damage, subtract its hardness from the damage. Only damage in excess of its hardness is deducted from the object’s hit points (see Table 9–8: Common Armor, Weapon, and Shield Hardness and Hit Points; Table 9–9: Substance Hardness and Hit Points; and Table 9–11: Object Hardness and Hit Points).
Energy Attacks: Acid and sonic attacks deal damage to most objects just as they do to creatures; roll damage and apply it normally after a successful hit. Electricity and fire attacks deal half damage to most objects; divide the damage dealt by 2 before applying the hardness. Cold attacks deal one-quarter dam*age to most objects; divide the damage dealt by 4 before applying the hardness.
Hardness: Each object has hardness
Creatures are not objects and the hardness of armor is mostly irrelevant, though it may grant some DR (which would be a houserule since there are no rules for using obdurium for anything other than building materials)
So it's purely geared as a feat that boosts a class ability. There's no taking into account those Artificers that also have the Craft Construct feat... which is the line that spellcasters use to create Homculi.
Which leaves the house-ruling time looming for just whether Craft Construct equals or boosts having the Create Homunculi ability (with or without the Improved Homunculus feat).
...Now I'm just having terrible flashes of the PC's running into some Renegade Mastermaker and doing the "ooo we should be sooo scared because he has an Iron Defender with him" .... right before it turns out that what they think is a plain old "Iron Defender" is actually a small sized Iron Golem...
Creatures are not objects and the hardness of armor is mostly irrelevant, though it may grant some DR (which would be a houserule since there are no rules for using obdurium for anything other than building materials)
I think Homocs are "Constructs" not creatures. Interesting point tho!
And the rules for obdurium are detailed in SBG.
I think Homocs are "Constructs" not creatures.
So you can't magic missile a homunculus since it needs a "creature" for a target? Sorry, constructs are creatures.
So you can't magic missile a homunculus since it needs a "creature" for a target? Sorry, constructs are creatures.
interesting. How about a rule to back that up? It seems you are right of course, i just cannot find such a rule...
An ability Homunculi lack.
This is also why Homunculi, Warforged and Golems are not available to the Mending spell.
interesting. How about a rule to back that up? It seems you are right of course, i just cannot find such a rule...
Constructs are a creature Type, not an object. Making a homi out of obdurium would be the same as making it out of adamantine (by the obdurium armor rules). Of course, there are no rules for making a homi out of adamanine either, but advancing the homi to 3HD at construction, then taking the Adamantine Body for it's 3 HD feat seems like a totally reasonable house rule.
... now, if they could just get Evasion. Ah! they can! so throw lightning reflexes on and improved toughness.
How can they get evasion?
No, I don't remember, can you point me to the details of this?
Doesn't a mount have to be at least one size larger than the rider?
In the words of Christopher Titus. "No, wait, hold on. This'll be good."
Wanted something different, after reading the 'Mad Alchemist' and 'Grenadier' feats from the Player's Handbook II, I tried to figure out the best alechemist I could make. Originally the build was gnome bard but as I researched and plotted I eventually turned to Halfling Artificer. Though thematically a gnome would make more sense, mechanically the halfling won. Shape Splash from RoE is Halfling only, they get the bonus to dex and thrown... what made me switch to artificer (craft pool really doesn't help me out as alchemy gear doesn't require XP to craft) was the Packmate.
Low Str is about a given in the build and trying to keep multiple explosive jars strapped to your chest is asking for trouble... that's when I read that the backmate allows you to draw items from it (rather it hands you items from itself) as a swift action, it's holding capasity negates the weight factor, and in a pinch it can even start hurling grenades itself.
A halfling artificer, with a packmate, grenadier, mad alchemist, shape splash, point blank shot. quickdraw, rapid shot.
It would make something quite different, and a heck of a lot of fun, on the battlefield.
It would make something quite different, and a heck of a lot of fun, on the battlefield.
Now take that to an extreme. Build a dozen packmates and fill them up with nasty things for them to throw. Suddenly you have the ability to cut huge swathes through massed armies as you torch and firebomb your way across the battlefield, general Molotov.
The Expeditious Messenger. The trick is to not build one, but many. This tactic is targeted toward higher levels, but works at all levels.
The EM has three major drawbacks: 1, that it is very susceptible to area effect spells; 2, it has low hit points; and 3, it deals little damage.
1. Area affects can be overcome with giving them Evasion as their first improved homunculus ability. The EM has a reasonable reflex save that should reach +15 by 20 hd.
2. Low hit points can be counteracted by having a high armor class. see below for how this is achieved.
3. Little damage can be fixed by giving the EM sneak attack or energy damage from the improved homunculus feat.
Improved Humonculus abilities should be given in this order:
L3: evasion - (Keep the homunculous alive against spellcasters.)
L6: Dextrous - +2 dex. (this increases attack and armor class by 1 each)
L9,12,15,18: Sneak attack +1d6 or energy damage. (your homunculus should be dealing 4d6 damage per hit by level 18.
Since the EM uses Dex for it's attack and armor class, all of your skill points from increased HD will be going into AC. along with 2 from improved humonculous, by 20 hd, your expeditious messenger should have a dex of 22 (+6 bonus)
This combined with it's tiny size and +12 natural armor should give your EM an AC of 30 by 20hd.
The feats that you give the EM are equally important.
L1: Lightning Reflexes
L3: Extend Reach - normally this humonc has to enter an opponents square to attack invoking an att of opp. this prevents that.
L6: Swarm Fighting - gives bonus to att for each other EM attacking an opponent up to dex modifier. (this means that at 20 hd, 6 of these things all gain +6 to their attack)
L9: Weapon Focus
L12: Improved Toughness - help keep them alive
L15: Deadly Precision - if you took sneak attack rather than elemental damage, increase each sneak attack damage dice by an average of .5.
this will give each one an attack bonus of +29 at 20 hd. dealing 1d2 + 4d5+5 (the 4d5+5 is sneak attack) (avg: 18.5)
The strategy, since you have a bunch of them, is to split them into two groups and flank opponents, thus gaining all of the sneak attack dice. If one gets hit, pull it out of combat till it can be healed. A group of a dozen of these things should be able to take down very high level CR creatures with little trouble.
The one problem you've got here is that you spent (2000*19+1650)*12=475800 GP on your little armada, which happens to be about 2/3 of your wealth-by-level at 20th level.
So let's go through those figures:
AC of 30 pretty much means they will be hit at that level by at least the two first iterative attacks.
Reflex save seems to be about +14 (correct me if I'm wrong). Usually, that would be considered halfway decent, but every single homunculus has a chance to roll low and it's quite possible that at least a few do so. Giving your enemy 12 targets when he has AoE spells is about the worst one can do - it will always hit something. If we take dragons as an example, they get a breath weapon save DC of about 24 (without funny feats) usually somewhere between Young Adult and Adult age, meaning CR 11-15. At that point, they deal between 20 and 50 points of damage to half of your homunculi in range.
All in all, I'd deem it too much money for too less effect at that level.
Homuncili might indeed not always be optimal, but the higher your level, the more affordable that HD upgrade becomes. (At e.g. level 12, 1500 GP isn’t a lot). And by then they do have a nice Natural Armor bonus from Improved Homunculus, 4 extra feats, some skill points and a few special abilities from Improved Homunculus. Sure they are not as tough as an Iron Golem, but they are a lot more customizable.
It will eat up a lot of your resources, but as a Artificer, you should be able to get 2-3 times standard wealth per level without too much efforts, by selling magical items to your party members. (This might cause you to lag behind a level compared to your party at certain times, but increasing money a few times might help out a bit there J).
Concerning the Packmate, what would you guys say for a packmate with HHH or a Bag of Holding as a part of it? Any special premium, or just the normal costs of the two?
My party is composed of two warforged, a changeling wizard, and me. So you can guess how cool I am
My question or request is (might be a big one and I apologize) can someone point me out to where I can read a list with all the homonculus available for an artificer and the feats for them (with book and if possible page)? If it is not available can we create it here? I think it would be a valuable resource especially for this nooblet. Much thanks!
But that aside, yes we can. Magic Of Eberron, Eberron Campaign Setting, and the Monster Manuals... 1 and 4 I believe... should contain all the possible Homunculi. There was also a thread on here somewhere with many homebrew Homunculi, but that, like this thread, is over a year old.
Exact page... just use the table of contents. I am feeling far too lazy to go and look.
With all due respect, this is the Forgotten Realms messageboard.
Wonder if any other threads got mixed up?
Heh, looks like they screwed up the mergers.
Wonder if any other threads got mixed up?
-This is the only one I've noticed...
-...While we're all here...
-...How's it going, Edy? :P
-This is the only one I've noticed...
-...While we're all here...
-...How's it going, Edy? :P
Eh, not bad, considering my favorite hobby is in the crapper, my favorite setting is being drastically cut back on, and the boards that cover both my favorite hobby and my favorite setting have been mashed down into one pit of utter chaos.
You?
Eh, not bad, considering my favorite hobby is in the crapper, my favorite setting is being drastically cut back on, and the boards that cover both my favorite hobby and my favorite setting have been mashed down into one pit of utter chaos.
You?
-Yeah, about the same. That accurately sums things on the other side of the fence, actually.
-Mike said neither Eberron or Forgotten Realms are going to be split anytime soon, you know that?
-Mike said neither Eberron or Forgotten Realms are going to be split anytime soon, you know that?
*goes to look*
Well there's a shocker. Mike throws pretty words around to make it look like he's actually trying to be useful, but then when he gets called on it, he says "No, we're doing it the way I want, I don't care what the rest say".
I wish I could say I was surprised to have yet another case of Mike lying through his teeth to us, but I just can't.
3rd lvl Human Mage. Feats: Research, Skill Focus(Arcana), and Fiery Blast(Reserve Feat from Complete Mage).
He plans on mostly taking such Reserve Feats ( My DM Has agreed to allow their use, because I'm not a combat monger designed to blow things up so much, as to figure things out.. and in figuring things out, have learned certain tricks of magic.. like using excess energy in interesting ways..)
Anywho.. He's not that strong. So a Packmate Homi would be a great addition, right? Little mobile luggage, self-rummaging, looting, and whatnot.
My Question to end all questions is... do I Absolutely HAVE to take the craft Homi feat? Other Wizards and Artificer's create magical items all the time, only to sell them off..
Constructs, Arms/Armor, Wondrous Items, Vehicles, etc. If I were to expend the required amount of xp, gp, etc.. and have someone else do the actual Crafting... would that suffice?
I don't think that normally constructs can be upgraded: you would have to make a new one. The exception is the artificer's companion homunculus, or through the Improved Homunculus feat.
As always, DM fiat to change things can apply though.
However, if you are an Artificer, the Craft Homonculus class feature specifically allows you the ability to add HD to your homonculus as you go.