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#1 Duke5150 Nov 07, 2009 23:46:22	My question is, about how many valenar elves does each warband contain? Dozens? Hundreds? A rough guess would be great. Thanks for any and all replies!
#2 darkspartan Nov 08, 2009 3:15:45	I expect that would be dependent on the type of warband, and what they were trying to accomplish. An espionage band would consist no more than ten, but a warband intended to take out a fortified city could consist of thousands after thousands. Pretty much everyone they could lay hands on with enough strength to pick up a sword. For a group committed to a Field battle, out in the open, I would think on the order of hundreds. For a small battle, maybe a hundredcount or two, and for a major battle five to seven hundred. Most combats from the Dark Ages here weren't more than that, no matter how powerful the King was. Just not enough population. I would create units of ten, fifty, and one hundred. Fifty archers or Cavalry for a hundred foot, and ten for special operations. Although a five-man team(aka a party of unwitting dup... I mean eager adventurers) can sometimes be just as effective. Not sure how much that helps... As far as Lore-friendly numbers, I'll have to do some research, and see if they mention it.
#3 ellorin Nov 08, 2009 4:13:42	Warbands, not a complete army, right? Even less than a dozen are sometimes enough. According to this Dragonshard, a band of 8 to 12 elves is a significant threat. The typical bands described in Forge of War are composed by about that number of elves.
#4 ellorin Nov 08, 2009 4:21:56	Valenar don't have the numbers for "thousands upon thousands". Besides, classic sieges are definitely not their style.
#5 darkspartan Nov 08, 2009 4:32:54	Valenar don't have the numbers for "thousands upon thousands". Besides, classic sieges are definitely not their style. In my own defense, the OP wasn't horribly clear on his definition of a warband. I stand corrected. Sorry, have had large-scale military encounters on the brain today.
#6 ellorin Nov 08, 2009 5:07:35	Valenar don't have the numbers for "thousands upon thousands". Besides, classic sieges are definitely not their style. In my own defense, the OP wasn't horribly clear on his definition of a warband. I stand corrected. Sorry, have had large-scale military encounters on the brain today. I thought that was the case. You probably described standard Khorvairina warfare(especially Karrnath and Thrane)-they're far more akin to actual medieval armies.
#7 darkspartan Nov 08, 2009 5:22:50	I'll keep that in mind, if the situation ever comes up. Who am I kidding... This is Eberron, after all ;)
#8 durskut Nov 09, 2009 0:11:54	The answer, unless there is more elsewhere, is on page 210 of the 3.5 ECS.  It says a Warband is a group of 8 to 12 individuals.  Multiple Warband make up a Warclan which numbers between 2 and 5 hundred individuals.  Valenar is the base of operations for all 45 Warclans.
#9 Duke5150 Nov 09, 2009 20:34:54	The answer, unless there is more elsewhere, is on page 210 of the 3.5 ECS.  It says a Warband is a group of 8 to 12 individuals.  Multiple Warband make up a Warclan which numbers between 2 and 5 hundred individuals.  Valenar is the base of operations for all 45 Warclans. Thank you very much! This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks to everyone else for their replies.