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Invoker in Eberron

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#1
cool_guy
Oct 01, 2010 14:30:44 how dose one explame Invokers and the pact they have with the gods if no one is sure the gods do exist on Eberron
#2
zeropoint
Oct 01, 2010 14:39:46 The same way every divine class is "explained". The faithful truly believe that the power is divine in origin, and strictly speaking there is no way to disprove that. Skeptical types might point to the fact that the supposedly "divine" power wielded by these characters is very similar to the arcane and psionic powers of other disciplines, and theorize that the power comes from an intense inner concordance with the hidden energies of the world. In other words, those people are so faithful in the power of their religion that they unconsciously change the world around themselves to match their faith by sheer willpower. Still other scholars might propose that, when a belief system reaches a critical mass of faithful followers, the faith of those followers itself can be a potent force which certain people can tap into and use. And there are dozens of other explanations.

Remember, you shouldn't need a decisive answer for where divine power comes from. That is the point, after all: people can't prove that the gods DO exist, but conversely can't prove that they DON'T either.
#3
guendolin
Oct 08, 2010 5:48:40 I'm sitting in the same problem with one of my players. He wanted to play a invoker and i said Ok before I realized that the discription of invokers in PH2 don't clash good with the view at deities in the Eberron Campain Setting. And the player don't know anything about Eberron.

I will go with his choise of class cause it's whant he wants to play.

Thank you ZeroPoint for that good explanasion to the power of invokers.
#4
Gilo
Oct 08, 2010 8:10:47 My thinking is that Invokers should have a more tangible connection with their faith, for example:

An Invoker of The Devourer carry a burn mark (the shape of a trident) after getting hit by lighting during a storm,
An Invoker of the Silver Flame is the only one who can see the ghost of Tira Miron guiding him in his travels,
An half-half Invoker of the Blood of Vol has the blood of the House of Vol running in his veins,
A warforged Invoker of the Becoming God, his own body is one of the parts needed to complete the God's creation.

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#1 cool_guy Oct 01, 2010 14:30:44	how dose one explame Invokers and the pact they have with the gods if no one is sure the gods do exist on Eberron
#2 zeropoint Oct 01, 2010 14:39:46	The same way every divine class is "explained". The faithful truly believe that the power is divine in origin, and strictly speaking there is no way to disprove that. Skeptical types might point to the fact that the supposedly "divine" power wielded by these characters is very similar to the arcane and psionic powers of other disciplines, and theorize that the power comes from an intense inner concordance with the hidden energies of the world. In other words, those people are so faithful in the power of their religion that they unconsciously change the world around themselves to match their faith by sheer willpower. Still other scholars might propose that, when a belief system reaches a critical mass of faithful followers, the faith of those followers itself can be a potent force which certain people can tap into and use. And there are dozens of other explanations. Remember, you shouldn't need a decisive answer for where divine power comes from. That is the point, after all: people can't prove that the gods DO exist, but conversely can't prove that they DON'T either.
#3 guendolin Oct 08, 2010 5:48:40	I'm sitting in the same problem with one of my players. He wanted to play a invoker and i said Ok before I realized that the discription of invokers in PH2 don't clash good with the view at deities in the Eberron Campain Setting. And the player don't know anything about Eberron. I will go with his choise of class cause it's whant he wants to play. Thank you ZeroPoint for that good explanasion to the power of invokers.
#4 Gilo Oct 08, 2010 8:10:47	My thinking is that Invokers should have a more tangible connection with their faith, for example: An Invoker of The Devourer carry a burn mark (the shape of a trident) after getting hit by lighting during a storm, An Invoker of the Silver Flame is the only one who can see the ghost of Tira Miron guiding him in his travels, An half-half Invoker of the Blood of Vol has the blood of the House of Vol running in his veins, A warforged Invoker of the Becoming God, his own body is one of the parts needed to complete the God's creation.