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New born Deva in my Campaign needs papers...

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#1
coff
Nov 19, 2009 23:55:38 So I've got a Deva in the campaign I've just started and I'm wondering if they are able to aquire papers upon reincarnation. He was reincarnated 6 months prior to the Mourning and I'm wondering what some might think about how they legitimize their presence in the world. Can a creature that appears fully grown with a legitimate character creation story get proper ID without being born proper? At present I've told the player that his character had to aquire fake papers to legitimize travel and his presense in the world but I'm wondering about legit reasons. Do Devas get papers soon as the reincarnate and show up to register for a legal identity?
#2
RedRider
Nov 20, 2009 3:30:33 As a medieval society, Khorvaire doesn't nescessarily have the bureaucratic infrastructure to make a lack of recorded identity a major concern for most people, who may never leave their farmsteads.

Even so, the best way to get yourself started on the identity ladder is probably to get "known" in some official capacity. If your character has some form of fairly legitimate* nontrivial income, start a Kundrak bank account. That gets your name in someone's records and probably gives you a few sheets of paper you can show to whoever handles travel documents.

*If you've acquired a pile of gold from under Sharn or Xen'drik without acquiring a letter of Marque, this can call down the ire of Boranel's bureaucracy. If you've been rewarded for an above-board mission by an upstanding nobleman you might be better off.

EDIT: Ah, wait, you're the GM then?

While Deva are rare, it's probable government bureaucracies are at least aware of them and may have special provisions on hand to deal with them. (Though it may involve digging through records and a bit of grumbling to find the correct rule.)

Probably the easiest way is to have the PC hired by someone to travel abroad (perhaps as a bodyguard or courier) and have the patron handle the paperwork. Though this does mean you'll have to justify the patron not calling on Denieth or Orien for similar services.
#3
superdeadsmurf
Nov 20, 2009 22:11:40
As a medieval society, Khorvaire doesn't nescessarily have the bureaucratic infrastructure to make a lack of recorded identity a major concern for most people, who may never leave their farmsteads.

Even so, the best way to get yourself started on the identity ladder is probably to get "known" in some official capacity. If your character has some form of fairly legitimate* nontrivial income, start a Kundrak bank account. That gets your name in someone's records and probably gives you a few sheets of paper you can show to whoever handles travel documents.

*If you've acquired a pile of gold from under Sharn or Xen'drik without acquiring a letter of Marque, this can call down the ire of Boranel's bureaucracy. If you've been rewarded for an above-board mission by an upstanding nobleman you might be better off.

EDIT: Ah, wait, you're the GM then?

While Deva are rare, it's probable government bureaucracies are at least aware of them and may have special provisions on hand to deal with them. (Though it may involve digging through records and a bit of grumbling to find the correct rule.)

Probably the easiest way is to have the PC hired by someone to travel abroad (perhaps as a bodyguard or courier) and have the patron handle the paperwork. Though this does mean you'll have to justify the patron not calling on Denieth or Orien for similar services.

Good suggestions, but I would go ahead and get the player to do some homework first. Get a scholar (there are universities full of them) on their side first. Or a government bureaucrat and/or professional (barristers especially) that will sponsor you - just like you need in real life to get a passport.
The government IMO would be quite willing to give papers to supernatural nationals as long as they can see benefit from doing so.
#4
soyim
Nov 21, 2009 14:47:28 Getting the "Papers" is a great way to anchor the character into the world. Normally players hate owing "favors" to NPC's or NPC organizations- but by doing it this way you can cement a relationship that the player has with a house (Sivis) a government (one of the remaining 4 nations) or anything along those lines (The Aurum can probably provide papers too- if you want to dance to their tune).

Additionally as a Pre-Mourner- it wouldn't take a lot of work to convince people that his papers were lost in Cyre- im sure many refugees from Cyre don't have official paperwork anylonger.

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#1 coff Nov 19, 2009 23:55:38	So I've got a Deva in the campaign I've just started and I'm wondering if they are able to aquire papers upon reincarnation. He was reincarnated 6 months prior to the Mourning and I'm wondering what some might think about how they legitimize their presence in the world. Can a creature that appears fully grown with a legitimate character creation story get proper ID without being born proper? At present I've told the player that his character had to aquire fake papers to legitimize travel and his presense in the world but I'm wondering about legit reasons. Do Devas get papers soon as the reincarnate and show up to register for a legal identity?
#2 RedRider Nov 20, 2009 3:30:33	As a medieval society, Khorvaire doesn't nescessarily have the bureaucratic infrastructure to make a lack of recorded identity a major concern for most people, who may never leave their farmsteads. Even so, the best way to get yourself started on the identity ladder is probably to get "known" in some official capacity. If your character has some form of fairly legitimate* nontrivial income, start a Kundrak bank account. That gets your name in someone's records and probably gives you a few sheets of paper you can show to whoever handles travel documents. *If you've acquired a pile of gold from under Sharn or Xen'drik without acquiring a letter of Marque, this can call down the ire of Boranel's bureaucracy. If you've been rewarded for an above-board mission by an upstanding nobleman you might be better off. EDIT: Ah, wait, you're the GM then? While Deva are rare, it's probable government bureaucracies are at least aware of them and may have special provisions on hand to deal with them. (Though it may involve digging through records and a bit of grumbling to find the correct rule.) Probably the easiest way is to have the PC hired by someone to travel abroad (perhaps as a bodyguard or courier) and have the patron handle the paperwork. Though this does mean you'll have to justify the patron not calling on Denieth or Orien for similar services.
#3 superdeadsmurf Nov 20, 2009 22:11:40	As a medieval society, Khorvaire doesn't nescessarily have the bureaucratic infrastructure to make a lack of recorded identity a major concern for most people, who may never leave their farmsteads. Even so, the best way to get yourself started on the identity ladder is probably to get "known" in some official capacity. If your character has some form of fairly legitimate* nontrivial income, start a Kundrak bank account. That gets your name in someone's records and probably gives you a few sheets of paper you can show to whoever handles travel documents. *If you've acquired a pile of gold from under Sharn or Xen'drik without acquiring a letter of Marque, this can call down the ire of Boranel's bureaucracy. If you've been rewarded for an above-board mission by an upstanding nobleman you might be better off. EDIT: Ah, wait, you're the GM then? While Deva are rare, it's probable government bureaucracies are at least aware of them and may have special provisions on hand to deal with them. (Though it may involve digging through records and a bit of grumbling to find the correct rule.) Probably the easiest way is to have the PC hired by someone to travel abroad (perhaps as a bodyguard or courier) and have the patron handle the paperwork. Though this does mean you'll have to justify the patron not calling on Denieth or Orien for similar services. Good suggestions, but I would go ahead and get the player to do some homework first. Get a scholar (there are universities full of them) on their side first. Or a government bureaucrat and/or professional (barristers especially) that will sponsor you - just like you need in real life to get a passport. The government IMO would be quite willing to give papers to supernatural nationals as long as they can see benefit from doing so.
#4 soyim Nov 21, 2009 14:47:28	Getting the "Papers" is a great way to anchor the character into the world. Normally players hate owing "favors" to NPC's or NPC organizations- but by doing it this way you can cement a relationship that the player has with a house (Sivis) a government (one of the remaining 4 nations) or anything along those lines (The Aurum can probably provide papers too- if you want to dance to their tune). Additionally as a Pre-Mourner- it wouldn't take a lot of work to convince people that his papers were lost in Cyre- im sure many refugees from Cyre don't have official paperwork anylonger.