It wasn't an often used site that I'm aware of, even in past editions... only thing I can suggest is looking at some of the older material and making educated guesses as to how it weathered things in the last century. The Living City of Raven's Bluff had some material on it I think, as did Forgotten Realms Adventures, but I can't say I can recall many other sources beyond the campaign guides. Pity there was never a Volo's Guide to the Vast, it was a book I was hoping to see in print at some point. Don't even think one was ever planned... though maybe one was mentioned as being in the library in Highmoon... maybe in the Leaves of Learning web enhancement from 3e.
Thinking more about it though, there was a brief mention in The Sea of Fallen Stars sourcebook as well, though it wasn't particularly extensive or expansive as I recall.
Well looking at the map, very closely, it looks as if the city is still on the water, so I guess the docks are still open. Of course the 4e map is full of inconsistencies, so who knows really?
The main thing I remember about Procampur is that they had walled off wards, like the Merchant Quater, the something else quater, etc., and each section had different colored roofs, or rooves or whatever. Off hand I dont remember all the sections or colors, but I would still imagine that is still enforced, a 100 years later, I mean theyve already probably been doing it for hundreds of years, whats a 100 more?
hey heres an idea, Did Procampur ever have a Thayan Enclave? Anything to say they dont have one?
hmmmmm
You may want to check changes that occured in Impiltur and Vesperin, as these neighboring land areas may have had similar changes that might have affected Procampur.
You might want to check Candlekeep for any Procampur references...
So that works out, the characters have been unknowingly collecting these pieces for Szass Tam, so that works out to have an Enclave there, but whos side would these Red Wizards be on?
And theres the question of exactly where at in Procampur was the Enclave? IM guessing it was probably in the Merchant District, or perhaps was built outside the city walls? hmmmmm...
And thanx Stigger and Andrekan, your suggestions are most helpful, keep them coming!
Each section has different colored roofs, so I color coded it.
The port is considered outside of the city so different activites and business dealings can be performed there, there is no rule on what color the roofs have to be here so they can be of any color, I just left it the default color on the map, but the roofs here are probably all different colors.
District of the Poor has gray slate roofs
the Sea District has blue roofs
The Service DIstrict Yellow
The Nobles District Silver
Castle District White, except for the High Court and Palace which are roofed in gold, The map wasnt clear on which exaclty building was which so I just took an educated guess.
Temple district Shiny black roofs
Merchant District seagreen, I added in dark red for the Thayan Enclave, it would make sense to me to have it in the Merchant section, and I cant find anything that says one way or another.
and the Adventurers district- red
Not sure how or if I should change it up for 4e. The Docks could be coming out more as Andrekan pointed out, that avenue that runs through the middle of town is pretty darn wide, some buildings could have popped up in there, and of course there could always be more structures built outside the city walls.
Who Rules: The Thultyrl, a hereditary overlord, currently Rendeth of the Royal Blood (NG hm F11)
Who Really Rules: The Hamayarch, mage-adviser to the Thultyrl. This office is traditionally filled by a wizard weaker than the ruler, and intensely loyal. At present, it is secretly held by an evil wizard who uses amulets and spells to conceal his true alignment and level. Purporting to be Alamondh (NG hm W8), he is really Carthoun Misintle (NE hm W16). Carthoun has quietly collected many magical items and created some undead servants to do his bidding (such as attacking all who pry too closely into his activities). He plans to achieve lichdom, and to eventually rule Procampur by slaying the unsuspecting Rendeth and taking his place, magically altered to resemble the Thultyrl. He dare not do this until Rendeth marries and conceives an heir with the distinctive copper-hued Thultyrl hair, sharp chin and gray green eyes, or he will be discovered.
Interesting. So whats the chances of this Carthoun guy still being around? Perhaps hes already succeeded? Did they ever follow up on this, anybody know?
Well after surfing around on the web looking for anything related to Procampur ive found out that they put out a Procampur expansion for Ravens Bluff the living city. Anybody know anything about this? Id never heard of it, but its got me very curious as to whats in there. Anybody know anything?
Keith
So Keith if you do have a copy, id be hangin on to that, its worth some serious dough, I dont want to say how much I actually paid for it, but it was quite a bit considering its only 12 pages, It better be chockful of good stuff, but if you worked on the Temple section, im sure itll have some good stuff in there.
so I guess as Andrekan pointed out the docks probably would be altered, looks like alot. The docks used to be on the west side of the city, but lookin at the 4e map it looks as if it would now be on the southside.
"In Cormyr, Sembia, and the independent cities of Ankhapur, Baldur’s Gate, Milvarune, and Procampur, stiff new import duties have been imposed on wines and spirits. In some cases, these duties amount to a silver piece per bottle, 2 sp per handkeg, and 4 gp for a cask; in others, they are a measure of total cargo cost and can run as high as 20 percent."
Ed also talks about the roouddan, a turnip like vegetable known in the Realms as the “red turnip of Proskur.” Theyre plentiful all around the Sea of Fallen Stars, so they would probably be plentiful in Procampur, probably found in ales and stews in most of the inns in Procampur and all around the Sea of Fallen Stars as well.
"All around the Sea of Fallen Stars, a turniplike vegetable called the roouddan is a staple of peasant fare, a thickener in stews, and a base for slop mashes fed to livestock (not to mention an ingredient in fiery small beers when allowed to ferment). The vegetable keeps long and well when guarded from heat and sun, so it can last the winter stored in a frigid cellar, buried in a stableyard, or kept in a barn bin covered with straw. It is regarded as a mainstay food by garrisons, larder-keepers, and sailors because it resists rot and is edible raw. For someone who has a sharp knife to slice its tough outer skin and a way to season its rather flavorless flesh, a roouddan makes a portable meal. For all these reasons, great amounts of the vegetable are imported into coastal places around the Inner Sea."
interesting stuff, I love all the little bits of lore Ed puts in these articles.
But I did manage to find this listing of military medals. Not sure how "official" it would be but still interesting, I see no reason not to use them, I'll probably work some in NPC descriptions and what not, and who knows maybe one of the PCs will earn one.
MINOR
The Stone Shovel: Ressembles a miniature shovel ,made of Iron . It
is given for 2 years long service to those with perfect records .
The Steel Shield : Saving the life of a citizen of Procampur at great
personal risk , often awarded post-humously . It is a Iron shield with
the symbol of the city in it's center .
The Granite Gravel: Attribuated only to the Proctors ,it is given
for 2 years long service in the Proctors to those with a perfect record . A
miniature gavel made of bronze .
The Ruby Rose: A small rose made of a pink quartz . Given to those who died
valiantly in protection of the city . Only given in times of war , post
humously .
The Grimm Medal of Valor : An obsidian cross with silver lining .
Attribuated to saving the life of a noble of the city ( non PC noble ) .
The Seabury Seal: Given to Seaman that saves a crewman from drowning .
MEDIUM
The Jade Wing : A wing made out of jade . Given to those that are promoted
to the Jade Wing squadron of the eagle riders .
The Luckstar Award : A gold star with the crest of Procampur in it's center
. Awarded during times of war to officers that through ingenuity and bravery
prevail in defeating the enemy .
Torm's Tear: An opal in the shape of a tear . given to those that sacrifice
themselves to save the other members of his unit .
The Consulate Award : A gold dodecagone with the crests of the 12 oldest
Noble families of Procampur . Given to those that save the life of a
Lord/Lady Consul or High Lord/Lady .
The Silver Horseshoe : As the name . Given to those that join the elite of
the Cavalry units .
MAJOR
The Sword of Thallastam : A miniature platinum sword . Awarded to those that
save the life of the Hamayarch .
The Ioun Heart: A multifaceted gem which changes color in the sunlight in
the shape of a heart . It is given to those that save the life of the
thultyrl .
The Emerald Claw : A miniature eagle claw made of Emerald . Given to those
that directly save the city .
Some other little tidbits ive picked up, My colored map is wrong, Ive learned from THO over on Candlekeep the the Red Wizard Enclave was not shoehorned into the city but rather more like an added on district, so I'll have to change that. Also learned that garnets are plentiful in Procampur. Ive known that Procampur was known for its jewlers and gemcutters, so its nice to know what sort of gem these people are commonly working with. Its little tid bits like these that really make a place come to life, ya know?