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#1 _teo_ Nov 09, 2009 6:51:01	Hi guys, a friend of mine wanna play for the new campaign that we are setting a character of hispanic inspiration. He don't know a lot about realms and he told me only that he likes to play a probably human male fighter of spanish inspiration. So the question is: from which realm he can comes? I can't remind a realm of clearly spanish inspiration but if i think about Maztica and its settlers, i can suppose that Amn could be a good choice, right? Thanks for the advice
#2 LordManshoon Nov 09, 2009 7:38:12	Of Spanish inspiration? I suppose Amn is his best bet.
#3 JudgeDookie Nov 09, 2009 11:02:48	Depends on what your friend actually means by Hispanic. To me, that sounds Latin--not Spanish. If so, then Maztica would be the place. And would give a good background plot to the character, as well. Being one of the few surviving remnants of a continent gone and all...
#4 Stigger Nov 10, 2009 0:44:50	Don't forget that you could even go with a Waterdhavian who spent a lot of time in and being influenced by the colonies of New Waterdeep or Trythosford.  Maybe even a Balduran from that Fort of theirs, though that seems pretty thin.  And its not like Waterdhavians aren't willing to adopt just about any idea or culture out there and integrating it into their bag of tricks if it appeals...
#5 The_Silversword Nov 10, 2009 0:51:21	That and the Realms is a huge place. Whos to say theres not an island of Latinos hidden away somewhere?                                                                                                        That land mass right up there     could be all Latinos. whos to say? They never did anything with it.
#6 Stigger Nov 10, 2009 0:55:20	Speaking as a person of Mexican descent, don't even joke about entire continents filled with hispanics... the Realms doesn't deserve that horror.  Unless they're an Amazon-like culture, I could go for that...
#7 The_Silversword Nov 10, 2009 1:12:39	Speaking as a person of Mexican descent, don't even joke about entire continents filled with hispanics... the Realms doesn't deserve that horror.  Unless they're an Amazon-like culture, I could go for that... LOL ...uh no comment. except for the Amazons part. Hells yeah! thats what the Realms needs right there.
#8 sfdragon Nov 10, 2009 1:14:42	yeah... amazons ....... spear weilding women of butt kicking popotions... kick arse and look good while doing it.... well as long as its not my arse getting kicked.....
#9 The_Silversword Nov 10, 2009 1:43:45	mmmmm Amazons... ok we better shut up now before we turn this thread into an Amazon lovefest. So to the origianl poster I think youre best bet would be to go with someone from Amn with Maztican heritage, or just make something up.
#10 sfdragon Nov 10, 2009 1:46:02	or just say his parents came from another world via portal magic and they fell in love with the world.
#11 The_Silversword Nov 10, 2009 1:48:11	Yup that could happen too, there are portals all over the Realms, Time Gates too. The possibilities are endless.
#12 sfdragon Nov 10, 2009 1:49:35	many worlds too..... Eberron, Greyhawk, Dark Sun, Golarion(pathfinder), Castlemourn , home grown ones... etc...
#13 _teo_ Nov 10, 2009 6:12:31	I prefer to not involve the planes, i like that my players create a pure faerunian (or "torilian" ) character, cuz we are playing "the Realms" not another Campaign Settings or Planescape. I know that an outsider from another plane (even another material plane) can give an exotic touch, but this is not what i'm looking for Except this, i was a bit vague in my post. This player wanna play a SPANISH fighter, not hispanic/latino type but hispanic/european type, execuse me for using the wrong terms However reading your posts i can suppose that Amn is the best choice he can do! (i forgot to say that we play before the SpellPlague, particularly during 1371 Year of the Unstrung Harp)   Thanks for the participation!
#14 Stigger Nov 10, 2009 8:02:29	You know, there actually are Amazons in the Realms, in the Vilhon Reach... well, were maybe, no idea if they survived the Spellplague or not.
#15 JudgeDookie Nov 10, 2009 10:04:45	Yeah, Amn is where the character should derive from. And I wouldn't make him an Amn-azon.
#16 suin_bahhar_02 Nov 10, 2009 10:26:01	I always got a portuguese/spanish settlers vibe from the areas around the Mhair and Black Jungle areas in Thindol, Samarach and Tashalar. These countries across from Calimport over the Shining Sea we're heavily influenced by the Rundeen, another distinctly "spanish merchant fleet" like organisation. Most cities in these areas are ruled by princes who are fighter/sorcerers, and the merchant classes commonly are seated in their court counsils. Hospitality is a large virtue, and the dishes are spicy. I'd use the swashbuckler class from Complete Warrior to build this character. Or go for a rogue fighter build focusing on a rapier and feinting, flashy noblemans disguises and horseback riding for a true Zorro like build.
#17 18DELTA Nov 10, 2009 14:08:02	You know, there actually are Amazons in the Realms, in the Vilhon Reach... well, were maybe, no idea if they survived the Spellplague or not. forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=... Markus was all into this earlier this year at Candlekeep. I sure do miss Markustay63. Come out come out where ever you are Markus.
#18 Stigger Nov 11, 2009 0:29:11	True... no one could spin things utterly out of context (in a good way, mind you) like he could.
#19 JudgeDookie Nov 11, 2009 0:39:53	Eh. Screw MT. Until he shows up, I have nothing to say to him.
#20 Stigger Nov 11, 2009 0:46:54	Not really into Big Men, but hey, feel free if you're into it...
#21 JudgeDookie Nov 11, 2009 0:55:58	So charming--and witty, too. Not.
#22 Stigger Nov 11, 2009 0:57:47	You're dating yourself with sort of language geezer.
#23 18DELTA Nov 11, 2009 6:07:27	True... no one could spin things utterly out of context (in a good way, mind you) like he could. Thats what made him so much fun. Especialy when he and LK would argue about stuff, yet ultimately be in agreement about it. I thought they were married sometimes...
#24 Stigger Nov 11, 2009 6:32:55	I'm not entirely convinced they aren't...
#25 Bluenose Nov 11, 2009 9:38:04	I'm going to disagree with the consensus for Amn. It's plausible, but it has a different 'tone' to it that I associate more with Italian politics - the merchant houses, competing nobles, ruling councils, internal strife, ostentatious wealth on display. Tethyr is a monarchy, with an aristocracy that is rather more 'military' and less 'mercantile', has strong Calishite (arab) influences, and has a surplus of fighting men after a war of unification who could be usefully employed outside the country.
#26 _teo_ Nov 12, 2009 9:25:30	Indeed Tethyr is my second choice after Amn. I think that both the realms can be choose from my player according to his tastes: if he prefers a merchantile background than Amn will be the right choice, if he prefers a warfare background Tethyr will be a better choice. I'll show him both possibilities and let him choose. Thanks to you for the participation!
#27 choseen_of_bejebuz Nov 12, 2009 23:27:50	WTF?
#28 The_Silversword Nov 12, 2009 23:46:30	What?
#29 JudgeDookie Nov 14, 2009 2:52:15	Sorry. There was supposed to be a quote attached, but.... Carry on. Serve the good people of Narnia.
#30 The_Silversword Nov 14, 2009 3:08:03	Sorry. There was supposed to be a quote attached, but.... Carry on. Serve the good people of Narnia. Lol! say what? now im really confused. Its funny you mention Narnia though as I just recently found out that the Lion from Narnia, Aslan? Was one of the Beast Lords in the Forgotten Realms before it was published. I think hes since morphed into Nobanion.
#31 sfdragon Nov 14, 2009 3:32:00	back in the day, when all was fun, back in the day, TSR had no rights to use Aslan when produced for the shelf, Aslan had to go. borrowed stuff and all, Its like Battletech has borrowed Mechs....
#32 The_Silversword Nov 14, 2009 3:36:29	Good point! It was published in an old issue of Dragon, but i guess that dont really count.
#33 JudgeDookie Nov 14, 2009 19:06:41	Are you sure that was FR or just D&D?
#34 The_Silversword Nov 14, 2009 22:02:05	Are you sure that was FR or just D&D? It was Forgotten Realms, but it was quite a bit before the release of the Old Gray Box Set, it had a listing of the gods as well and they matched up with what was in the grey box, except Tyche was listed instead of Tymora and Beshaba, and the Elemental Lords were taken from the Elric Pantheon. I dont remember what Issue it was in at the momemnt. Edit: I just checked it was Issue 54.
#35 JudgeDookie Nov 14, 2009 22:31:04	Well, I knew that Ed tended to borrow concepts, but that seems a bit screwy. Not saying you are incorrect, but...WTF?
#36 The_Silversword Nov 14, 2009 22:35:13	Well, I knew that Ed tended to borrow concepts, but that seems a bit screwy. Not saying you are incorrect, but...WTF? Well I guess Ed wanted a Lion in there for a Beastlord, and Aslan fit, this was also before the Narnia movies came out and the cartoon, so it probably didnt seem as sappy then. I guess Ed is a big fan of C.S. Lewis.
#37 JudgeDookie Nov 14, 2009 22:42:53	Ed is a big fan of anything fantastical, it appears. Was Mr. Spock the god of interlopers in that issue?
#38 The_Silversword Nov 14, 2009 22:46:13	Lol! No Spock was the chief Elven Deity. I posted more about that issue of dragon in the cleric powers thread.
#39 JudgeDookie Nov 15, 2009 0:18:49	I care not. Continue on.
#40 Stigger Nov 15, 2009 9:51:14	Thank you Imoen...
#41 _teo_ Nov 15, 2009 13:30:38	Nice off-topic However i've another question about this spanish character: witch type of armor and weapons could be better for him? Keep in mind that he will be the tank of the group (composed by Aasimar Favored Soul, Human Wizard and probably an Elf Ranger or Rogue/Ranger) so he need an high AC. And shied type or two handed weapon type? Thanks for the answer!
#42 JudgeDookie Nov 15, 2009 16:08:36	I still prefer Suin's preference of the Swashbuckler for a Spainard, but if this guy is supposed to be a "tank", then heritage doesn't seem like much of a deal here. Your question defaults to what type of tank he is supposed to be--one that can take significant damage, or one that can dish it?
#43 The_Silversword Nov 15, 2009 18:27:44	Nice off-topic However i've another question about this spanish character: witch type of armor and weapons could be better for him? Keep in mind that he will be the tank of the group (composed by Aasimar Favored Soul, Human Wizard and probably an Elf Ranger or Rogue/Ranger) so he need an high AC. And shied type or two handed weapon type? Thanks for the answer!
#44 JudgeDookie Nov 15, 2009 21:33:21	If he was a Swashbuckler, I would definitely go rapier/saber.
#45 _teo_ Nov 17, 2009 5:57:37	And what about the typical appearance of the "conquistadores" with a breastplate and a polearm? General Cordell from Amn, the man who begin the conquest of Maztica, has this look nope?
#46 JudgeDookie Nov 17, 2009 21:21:53	Very good point. Yet, leave it to our dear Erianthe to bring up the fashion thing. The conquistador thing works just fine. I thought he was supposed to be a "tank" though?