It looks like I will finally be involved in a tabletop campaign setting in the near future - yay! We've got four players so far and are hoping to enlist a couple more.
The topic of the thread is pretty self-explanatory - what areas would you consider setting a campaign which aren't heavily explored in terms of lore and novels? Akanul, Tymanter and Returned Abeir are obvious choices; any others spring to mind?
It looks like I will finally be involved in a tabletop campaign setting in the near future - yay! We've got four players so far and are hoping to enlist a couple more.
The topic of the thread is pretty self-explanatory - what areas would you consider setting a campaign which aren't heavily explored in terms of lore and novels? Akanul, Tymanter and Returned Abeir are obvious choices; any others spring to mind?
Well, Lantan immediately springs to mind, but I suppose that's not an option, so....
Murghom? High (Should still be Dead and Broken) Imaskar? The Lake of Steam?
better Imaskar than really should of stayed dead and or gone Netheril.
Netheril
Imaskar
that part of returned Abeir
Thanks for the ideas, guys. I'll check them out this coming weekend and then bring 'em up with our potential players. 
Thanks for the ideas, guys. I'll check them out this coming weekend and then bring 'em up with our potential players.
Let us know how it goes. I have money riding on my choices. It's the money of Westgate commoners, too. You don't want the wretched Westgate lower classmen to lose their life savings, do you?
Eh, they're only commoners - beneath my notice, I say! :P
But yes, I do promise to let you know.
Is this in 3.5 or 4E timeframe? I was going to suggest Dambrath either way .
4e time frame; time jump all the way, baby! :P
Bah. 4E Dambrath isn't worth it. No Crinti? No Loviatans in command? What a ****up.
That being said, if you were to consider reinstating the Crinti and Loviatans in your own 4E Dambrath, then it would be fun again. That would be super.
Er, what is Crinti? (Do I want to know?)
Er, what is Crinti? (Do I want to know?)
Half-Drow
Er, what is Crinti? (Do I want to know?)
way back in the 3rd edition and maybe the 2nd too they were a race of half-drow, and maybe some 1/4 drow too( human with jet black skin).
imo they were wiped out or were enslaved, or left to nomads during the spell plague
they were nothing speical.
I liked them, actually. Evil half-drow (and the occasional half-elf, long story), peerless r(a)iders, devotees of Loviatar, who had a rather singular feudal state in the far south of Faerun. They were a fairly unusual bunch, and now they are gone, sniveling back at their drow ancestors' feet (like most other half-drow that don't do a Drizzt) and generally being useless so local human culture #17 could have its state back.
they were nothing speical.
Wrong.
I liked them, actually. Evil half-drow (and the occasional half-elf, long story), peerless r(a)iders, devotees of Loviatar, who had a rather singular feudal state in the far south of Faerun. They were a fairly unusual bunch, and now they are gone, sniveling back at their drow ancestors' feet (like most other half-drow that don't do a Drizzt) and generally being useless so local human culture #17 could have its state back.
I love the Crinti, which is why my current character is one. They were pretty intriguing, and their state was certainly unique. Of course, it was so unique it didn't survive the Generic Breath of Change.* Now, the humans call the shots.... and nothing special happens there. Ho hum.
*Not an insult/attack/barb aimed at 4E or the designers (both of which I'm a fan). Just disappointment that my favorite race and one of my favorite areas got facepalmed by the time-jump without something more intriguing being established in their place.
Did you make up new stats for the race, LordManshoon or use the half-elf with some tinkering?
I must say that the little I read on Dambrath's past did look very interesting. How/why did they associate with the elves anyway? That's the part that really caught my attention and intrigued me greatly, as well as the blending with barbarians.
Did you make up new stats for the race, LordManshoon or use the half-elf with some tinkering?
The latter. Though, with the Drow now a proper race (which it wasn't at the time I designed my Rogue), I think I'm going to go back and create a proper Crinti when I have the free time. I'll just say my Rogue is an unusual Crinti (he's of Kara Turan descent, maybe the blood of Wa is more potent than the average Faerunian's when mixed with Drow).
I must say that the little I read on Dambrath's past did look very interesting. How/why did they associate with the elves anyway? That's the part that really caught my attention and intrigued me greatly, as well as the blending with barbarians.
They considered themselves superior to elves and other half-elves, though I don't recall them despising their surface kin with as much bile as their full-blooded Drow brethren. And their attitude towards the Arkaiuns is worse; the barbarians are fodder, worthy of subjugation.
I'm meeting with my group for the first time today in a pub - eek! 
I'll bring up the ideas of locations and let you know which one they choose.
They considered themselves superior to elves and other half-elves, though I don't recall them despising their surface kin with as much bile as their full-blooded Drow brethren. And their attitude towards the Arkaiuns is worse; the barbarians are fodder, worthy of subjugation.
Well, if I remember correctly their attitude towards elves and other half-elves was "kill on sight, or kill by torture", and neither is much better imo .
They considered themselves superior to elves and other half-elves, though I don't recall them despising their surface kin with as much bile as their full-blooded Drow brethren. And their attitude towards the Arkaiuns is worse; the barbarians are fodder, worthy of subjugation.Well, if I remember correctly their attitude towards elves and other half-elves was "kill on sight, or kill by torture", and neither is much better imo
Kill on sight > Kill by torture, the latter of which was also used on Arkaiun slaves for fun/punishment. It can also be argued Kill on sight > Enslaved, when your masters are as capricious as drowkin.
no LM I"m quite correct the crinti were nothing special.
this is however far as I'm concerened
no LM I"m quite correct the crinti were nothing special.
this is however far as I'm concerened
See, here's your problem. You're looking at it subjectively. You're ignoring the reality: that they are awesome, and that anyone who disagrees deserves to burn in Avernus.
I agree nothing special.
I only liked them half the time...
no LM I"m quite correct the crinti were nothing special.
this is however far as I'm concerened
See, here's your problem. You're looking at it subjectively. You're ignoring the reality: that they are awesome, and that anyone who disagrees deserves to burn in Avernus.
and that is still matter of oppinion.
I think of them is as much as I do half-elves or half-drow.
not to much......
no LM I"m quite correct the crinti were nothing special.
this is however far as I'm concerened
See, here's your problem. You're looking at it subjectively. You're ignoring the reality: that they are awesome, and that anyone who disagrees deserves to burn in Avernus.
and that is still matter of oppinion.
... I think you're mistaking the severity of my statement as genuine. I'm joshin' ya.
I think of them is as much as I do half-elves or half-drow.not to much......
Racist.
Well, I actually don't have to worry about where to set the game because my husband's DMing the first game with the Scepter Tower of Spellgard. I shouldn't have to DM for at least another month which means I can bone up on the books.
However, I'm playing a revenant bard (yeah not the best choice of class but he really grabbed my imagination) and he's going to try to pawn off his bizarre eyes by claiming he's descended from Crinti. :P
well how do we know he isnt???
anyway half elves/drow have their places, and they are in the way back armed with long bows.....
and over there behind you with a crossbow
well how do we know he isnt???
You know, you're right!
anyway half elves/drow have their places, and they are in the way back armed with long bows.....
and over there behind you with a crossbow
Just showing how smart they are. :D
However, I'm playing a revenant bard (yeah not the best choice of class but he really grabbed my imagination) and he's going to try to pawn off his bizarre eyes by claiming he's descended from Crinti. :P
That might not be the best thing you can claim in a mixed company. You can just claim descent from an obscure bunch of moon/wild/whatever elves, and people won't care.
I could have sharringan eyes on a character in the FR and nobody would care.
class bonus to dodge ac, or refleax ac one or the other.... hahahaha
but we digress the eyes topics are off topic for this thread.
However, I'm playing a revenant bard (yeah not the best choice of class but he really grabbed my imagination) and he's going to try to pawn off his bizarre eyes by claiming he's descended from Crinti. :P
That might not be the best thing you can claim in a mixed company. You can just claim descent from an obscure bunch of moon/wild/whatever elves, and people won't care.
No elves in the present company, so I'm safe. However, as the campaign's starting in Netheril, I'm wondering about using the Shadowfell-descended Netherese as an excuse instead. Suggestions? Oh, and he doesn't look elvish/Drow/eladrin; he looks human.
sfdragon, I had to look up sharingan - funky! LOL Actually, I'm using this presently for my character.
Remy's eyes of fiery death huh?
Yep! I was reading the description of revenant's eyes to my husband and he mentioned Gambit. My X-Men knowledge only went up to the end of the Magik era. My husband had given me some updates (I knew Rogue was going out with him at one point) but I didn't know he also had bizarre ideas till the past weekend.
Slighty off topic, but I thought Gambit was the best thing about the Wolverine movie. He definatly needs his own movie!
Gambit is the best character in Ultimate Alliance 2. PS2 version that is.
Delta, my husband agrees with you about Gambit in the 360 version of it. He wasn't overly fond of the game otherwise.
Sfdragon, I only saw bits of the Wolverine movie (what garbage!) so I can't really say anything about what Gambit was like.
As for off-topic - meh, I started the thread and don't have to worry about DMing for at least another month. So go for it till I come back moaning about what to do. :P
ummm it wasnt me who mentioned the wolverine movie.
but I thought it was pretty good...
ummm it wasnt me who mentioned the wolverine movie.
but I thought it was pretty good...
Yup that was me that mentioned the movie. I liked it too up until the Adamantium bullet thing. I think it would of made more sense to go with memory implants like in the comic. I mean an adamantium bullet still wouldnt go through adamantium, unless he shot Wolvie in the eye, then hed have to wear an eye patch, like in the comic.
.... But the movie did have gambit in it, so that made up for it.
and the 2nd X-men movie had Nightcrawler in it....
Is Nightcrawler a Tiefling or what?
No, a Mutant...
What he cant be a mutant Tiefling?
And did they ever finally reveal that Magneto was his daddy? I know it was hinted at for a long long time. I havnt actually read the comics in years.
*bashes minion's against the wall*
For the love of Ao, why is this going on? This is even more off-topic than we normally get! Fine, as usual, Manshoon has to sort things out.
First off: Gambit > Everyone else.
End of story
Now: Here's where the topic moves back on track. What have you or your DMs done with the low lore areas in your own games? And.... go team!
*ouch!*
Hey Pamela gave us permission to go off topic.
i havnt really deviated much from what they got in the $eRealms source books. I havnt brought any gods back to life or anything, I know im boring. I just started my 4e game a few months ago and the group im with alternates DMs, and every DM uses their own system and worlds, so ive only actually run like 3 times so far, but my turns coming up again in a few weeks so i might change some stuff up, we shall see how it goes.
uh nope, Nightcrawlers mommie is Mystique, his pappy was more a less infernal.
look it up here: marvel.com/universe/Nightcrawler
Ahhh. I knew Mystique was his mommy, i was thinkin Magneto was the daddy. Im not sure where i picked that up, probably from the cartoon. And we need to shut up talkin about X-men or Lord Manshoon will smite us!
I aint scared!
Ahhh. I knew Mystique was his mommy, i was thinkin Magneto was the daddy. Im not sure where i picked that up, probably from the cartoon. And we need to shut up talkin about X-men or Lord Manshoon will smite us!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmhvxsOwhqk
I'll talk about the X-men all I want....
wolverine in the realms would be a barbarian.....
Yeah! Instead of House of M it would be the House of Curellon!
Yeah! Instead of House of M it would be the House of Curellon!
with nekid halfling girls.....
Yeah! Instead of House of M it would be the House of Curellon!
with nekid halfling girls.....
LOL
you and them Halflings!
I am starting to wonder myself...
*bashes minion's against the wall*
For the love of Ao, why is this going on? This is even more off-topic than we normally get! Fine, as usual, Manshoon has to sort things out.
First off: Gambit > Everyone else.
End of story
Now: Here's where the topic moves back on track. What have you or your DMs done with the low lore areas in your own games? And.... go team!
Yo, Ao-flunky, chill! Gambit is NOT > Everyone else. Spiderman is easily > Gambit. Or used to be, before they decided to do that awful Civil War nonsense and infernal pact *mutters about kids nowadays and their lack of respect for tradition that dates back to her own childhood*
Does Akanul count as low-lore? If so, I googled what I could about Chessenta and Airspur and then made up a little bit of history which ended up in the creation of one important NPC. That's really all I've done so far; I'm winging it as I go along. It's generally what I do though.
Er, what is Crinti? (Do I want to know?)
I imagine the Crinti still exist.
I use a family (Huruafair) as background of my character (Tesh, a half-elf flavored 'half drow'). The family, being 'heretics', fled Dambrath and settled in East Rift long before the Spellplague, and allied with the dwarves there. They are one of the few Crinti houses left. They are not only half-drow (but most are): the family accepts and adopts other races as well (including drow, elves, and eladrin).
You could use that family if you want to do anything in Dambrath and use a link to the former Crinti.
Akanul as 'low lore'- well, there are, iirc, 2 or 3 Dragon articles on Akanul. So there is actually some stuff around. Plus anything you can get from LFR (haven't played much yet, sp i don;t know how much lore it contains).
There is Lless stuff on Tymanther (the LFR adventures I have seen seem to focus on a specific region, so if you don't have access to those that would not matter much).
How about Vesperin? I think there is not that much lore about the region. There was Living City (and a 'Ravens Bluff' book), but that was some time ago and iirc only details one town. I did use a Vesperin merchant (Aron Selkirk), and the Silver Ravens (an organisation now based in that region) in my adventures, but you do not necessarily have to use those.
Other low lore areas (afaik) : Turmish (and the Vilhon Wilds) or Durpar (and the Beastlands).
The best choice if you really don't want any lore to hunt after, however:
Murghôm. It's entuirely new, and has, with its dragons, enough going on that the PCs may never have a need to leave.
Gomez
acyually I like nekid Eladrin and elven girls.....
just in one of the Entreri books they had a dwarf state with nekid female halfling dancers
Right.
This one as far more intriguing than any Xman.
Personally I am very much interested in the new state of the Imaskari Empire. I always had a soft spot for these gods defying magocracies and I'd like to know how they would go about altering the landscape, cities and politics of their direct environment.
The reemergance of the Deep Imaskari empire is also very low on the lore part so one could fill this in as they pleased.