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| #1xpochianAug 18, 2008 15:38:20 | fairly self explanatory, but i was considering adding shifter and changeling - both from the eberron campaign setting - into my 3.5e forgotten realms campaign. is this a good or bad idea, from anyone who's had any experience doing something like this beforehand? my explanation for "Where'd they come from?" would be that changelings have always been on the fringes of humanity, but remained hidden for good reason. shifters, mechanically, are surprisingly akin to nomadic barbarians, so who's to say that anyone's really ever been able to tell them apart. also, the though of having a good number of Uthgardt barbarian-folk be shifters who literally embody their deific totem is pretty sweet-buns sweet. in my books anyhow. |
| #2barthalasAug 18, 2008 15:46:58 | fairly self explanatory, but i was considering adding shifter and changeling - both from the eberron campaign setting - into my 3.5e forgotten realms campaign. is this a good or bad idea, from anyone who's had any experience doing something like this beforehand? Depends how many are you thinking. Are you looking for whole communities or maybe just a village or two. One of the "devices" I really liked was the Inn that appeared on a bunch of game setting worlds. World Serpent Inn I think. Now maybe there was a group of shifters who had fled to the realms during the time of the Lycanthrope Purge by Thrane on Eberron. They could have settled in a remote/hidden forest somewhere and between the time they arrived and the boost from the 97 years or so to the current setting, they probably have had enough time to start a small thriving village. |
| #3merrikcaleAug 18, 2008 15:50:42 | to me, shifters, warforged and changelings are for eberron. Its part of that world and is not a Realms "thing". But hey, thats just me |
| #4lord_karsusAug 18, 2008 21:42:28 | -Many things that already exist in the Forgotten Realms can be used as is, but use those new Eberron race stats. For example, the Blood-Forge Golems of the East are very much like the Warforged. As such, they can use Warforged stats. Shifters are very much like certain Lycanthropes... |
| #5naexAug 18, 2008 23:32:56 | I was thinking of using a warforged myself. A project a Halruuan Wizard was working on when everything went boom around him, and this unique (as far as it knows) being crawls out of the rubble (swamp to be more exact) with no knowledge of what it is or where it comes from. Other races would work, but only in small groups at most, say a small group got transported by Halaster before his death. |
| #6markustay63Aug 18, 2008 23:54:51 | Changelings actually fit perfectly in the Realms - we have several races of shape-shifters already, and the Batrachi Creator-race was known for this. I think Changelings would be a great edition to the 4e Realms, as a natural out-growth of The Unseen over the past century. Shifters can also work - I figure its a mutation caused by the Spellplague on creatures afflicted with Lycanthropy. Selune got a power-infusion that probably screwed her up right good for awhile, and Lycanthropy falls under her (and Malar's, somewhat) jurisdiction. Figure whenever a Were-creature had sex with a normal person, the offspring wound up a Shifter after the Spellplague, rather then another Lycanthrope, like before. With all the other changes, having this two races appear over the last century isn't a bad idea at all. Warforged are another matter - while I do like them, and they are pretty cool and all, they just scream Eberron. I was planning on working them into 3e through the Utter East and the Bloodforges (they would be Bloodforged), but that would be on a VERY limited case-by-case basis, giving DMs a reason for a few of them to be around in the Realms. Nothing on the order of what we see in Eberron, and their back-story would be very different as well. In 4e, I have another idea - there are at least two places with 'Ceramic Clay Soldiers' arrayed in formation in the eastern lands, and it wouldn't be too hard to apply Warforged rules to these 'artificial men built for war' - in fact, its a no-brainer. They looked a little different then Eb Warforged, like artifical Samurai, but thats what sets them apart and gives them more of an FR flavor. Hope that helps somewhat. ![]() |
| #7xpochianAug 23, 2008 1:41:31 | oh, well, we're primarily a 3e campaign, but i was thinking that shifter and changeling could/would meld in the north at least considering selune and malar's influences. also, the changelings tie with the creator races quite perfectly, or maybe as yuan-ti tainted infiltrators or something. |
| #8DiffanAug 23, 2008 20:18:09 | I think changelings could be in any setting where there are Doppelgangers. As for Warforged, I had them created by Lantanese people who then rebelled and founded their own small society on an island no more than 100 miles off Lantan's coast. Same goes for Eberron base classes like the Artificer. I don't see a reason why there wouldn't be artificers in Faerun. |
| #9lord_karsusAug 23, 2008 20:26:10 | I don't see a reason why there wouldn't be artificers in Faerun. -There are. The Gnome Artificer is a PrC in Magic of Faerûn. |
| #1018DELTAAug 23, 2008 20:26:38 | -I was thinking about making Shifters Black Blood Cultist! :D 18DELTA ![]() |
| #11merrikcaleAug 23, 2008 22:13:52 | -I was thinking about making Shifters Black Blood Cultist! :D so I suppose if we do get stuck with shifters this will make some sense |
| #1218DELTAAug 23, 2008 22:47:19 | so I suppose if we do get stuck with shifters this will make some sense -You make it seem like a bad thing. ![]() 18DELTA ;) |
| #13quale_Aug 24, 2008 7:15:34 | we have a changeling society in Chessenta, which is more swamp-like, they're descendants of the Bathrachi, like doppelgangers, individual changelings can be anywhere the shifters are in Rawh (homebrew Dambrath, mostly woodlands), some are followers of guardinal paragons, some Black Blood Cultists, or worshippers of Selune or Malar, depends on the tribe. Also in Rawlinswood where are inserted Eldeen Reaches. don't have warforged, the gnomes of Lantan have created golmoids, they're less numerous and independent, they form kinda symbiotic society with the gnomes Sarlona is in Utter East, so kalashtar are there, the geography is changed and rearranged, Riedra has only 5 million people, quori are replaced by fey. Tashana Tundra is just a plateau of Yehimal (includes the dwarves, but I have Castlemourn dwarves also there as korobukuru), Adar is mostly the same, part of Yehimal. Syrkarn is east of Durpar, Sarlonian ruins are Imaskari, doesn't include yuan-ti, but rakshasas. Aerenal is east the southern undead continent (Zakhara). Lhazaar Principalities are seafaring undead realms there. Sulatar drow are in the southern polar regions, bordering Katashaka, followers of Surtr, etc. |
| #14JohnLynchAug 24, 2008 7:54:53 | One idea could be Shifters are lycanthropes who were experimented on in an attempt to cure them. Changelings could also have been created as the ultimate tool in espionage, however in recent years some of the changelings have begun rebelling and have abandoned their masters and gone to live their own lives (pretty easy to do when you can look like anyone). |