Something I am considering for my campaign. Looking for feedback and contributions to expand upon this alternate scenario. I'm hoping not to turn this into a 3EFR vs 4EFR discussion.
After the Spellplague, Gruumsh hungered for Talos' domain over destruction and chaos and attacked the Stormlord. The conflict was great and terrible and in the end Talos was defeated, forced to flee. Reduced in power, Talos is but a shadow of his former self. A Storm and lightning god no more powerful than the furies that served him. Talos, weakened and threatened by the very gods and goddesses he once lorded over has subjected himself to the most terrible of humiliations (in his eye): He now serves Silvanus as one of the furies - no more powerful than Umberlee, Auril, and Malar. The Stormlord now broods in anger and fury, vowing to one day get even with Gruumsh and all of those that have humiliated him.
One thing I like about this is that it brings a more continual story to the conflict of Talos vs Gruumsh. The real thorn here is the subjugation of Talos to Silvanus. I think he'd probably prefer to follow someone wo promises room for conquest, not balance.
Bane would be a better fit for his servitude, and Bane could call upon Talos for destructive aid if he needs some extra oomph for his warmachine. Talos and Bane make a terrifying force, even if Talos was weakened his anger would make him like a Garagos like battle rager. Bane might have enough control over Talos to make him more effective by strategic advice and coercion.
But then again, I couldn't really use wise and Talos in the same sentence together with a straight face anyways. Still, going to Bane seems to be more a recipe for certain death than subjecting himself to Silvanus (where he might figure he has time to recoup).
The issue comes up because I don't like the Talos/Gruumsh scenario as written. This seems a decent compromise - it lets Gruumsh grow in power by commandeering the domain of destruction and still keeps Talos around as a storm god.
Great idea OP.
Why wait for justification when you can destroy at will?
Would not Talos make more sense as a primal spirit thingee...? I addmitly got no idea what they are vesides a very loose desciption of the concept.
You make a very good point there, Talos could indeed work as a Primal Spirit. Or perhaps a Primordial. As I understand it the Primordials are like the personifications of the destructive forces of Nature, so that to me has Talos written all over it.
There does seem to be a very, very fine line between Primordal, Primal Spirit, Archfey, and the gods, and many gods seem to blur those lines even more.
Would not Talos make more sense as a primal spirit thingee...? I addmitly got no idea what they are vesides a very loose desciption of the concept.
You make a very good point there, Talos could indeed work as a Primal Spirit. Or perhaps a Primordial. As I understand it the Primordials are like the personifications of the destructive forces of Nature, so that to me has Talos written all over it.
There does seem to be a very, very fine line between Primordal, Primal Spirit, Archfey, and the gods, and many gods seem to blur those lines even more.
Yeah...I think they killed Talos off too fast...especialy with gods...who are not gods idea the seem to be having. Though I guess they didn't know that they would come up with this at the time they got their orders to kill a whole bunch of gods off.
I am wondering though....slightly off topic...what is a primal spirit? and a archfey? and how are they different from gods? If people want to reply to this via PM to me that might be a good idea as not to derail this thread.
If people want to reply to this via PM to me that might be a good idea as not to derail this thread.
Sounds like a good idea for a new thread!