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Bareris and Tammith [SPOILERS]

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#1
mister_mxyztplk
Dec 04, 2008 3:59:45 At the end of Undead, what type of undead do you believe Bareris became? My speculation is that he is some form of death knight or crypt spawn. He could also be a new type of undead that as of now has not been given stats.

As for Tammith, now that her vampire form is destroyed it should not be all that difficult to get a true resurrection spell cast to bring her back. Being a bard at around level fifteen (that's where he would have to be to successfully defeat some of the enemies that he has fought in this book) as well as having whatever additional powers that come with his undead state, raising the capital and finding a cleric capable of casting the spell should not be overly difficult. After that all he would need to do is destroy himself and have a cleric ready to resurrect him. And that would give them a happily ever after ending. Well, until they die in the next WotC plot device. Its just that with the resurrection magic being tossed around so much in the Lady Penitent series, I have a hard time believing that it is anymore rare than magic in general.
#2
tyrantbane
Dec 04, 2008 10:02:16 In Libris Mortis, there's a kind of undead bard...The crypt chanter I think...Since the Undead series uses alot of monsters from this book, I suppose Bareris became one of these.

As for Tammith, she's probably a swarm-shifter vampire. A template again in Libris Mortis.
#3
bonzai
Dec 04, 2008 10:28:34
In Libris Mortis, there's a kind of undead bard...The crypt chanter I think...Since the Undead series uses alot of monsters from this book, I suppose Bareris became one of these.

As for Tammith, she's probably a swarm-shifter vampire. A template again in Libris Mortis.

Spectral Lyracist is what you were looking for.
#4
lord_karsus
Dec 04, 2008 11:39:24 -I always enjoy when novels draw from a wide variety of D&D products for spells, creatures, classes, and all of that.
#5
ody_saraph_of_karsus
Dec 04, 2008 14:08:33 I think (for now) that is a necropolitan since they tend to apear what they used to be before they died and he didn't show any particular talents besides being undead.

Spectral Lyracist are ethereal
#6
red_wizard
Dec 04, 2008 21:22:50
-I always enjoy when novels draw from a wide variety of D&D products for spells, creatures, classes, and all of that.

I agree. So long as they follow the rules they're using. Personally I don't see a point in opening a supplement, and taking something from it, if you're only going to turn around and ignore it later. You may as well let the creative juices flow in their entirety.

But then again, I'm still bitter at the complete disregard of the DnD system for the novel.

-RW
#7
tyrantbane
Dec 04, 2008 22:13:22
Spectral Lyracist is what you were looking for.

In fact, Bareris is probably just on a Prestige class, the Dirgesinger...Spectral lyrist or crypt chanters are incorporeal.
#8
lord_karsus
Dec 04, 2008 23:45:16
I agree. So long as they follow the rules they're using. Personally I don't see a point in opening a supplement, and taking something from it, if you're only going to turn around and ignore it later. You may as well let the creative juices flow in their entirety.

But then again, I'm still bitter at the complete disregard of the DnD system for the novel.

-RW

-Meh, I agree, to a point. Writers, when they write, they need their poetic license. That's just part of writing. I do like my authors to stick closer to the rules than further from the rules, though.

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#1 mister_mxyztplk Dec 04, 2008 3:59:45	At the end of Undead, what type of undead do you believe Bareris became? My speculation is that he is some form of death knight or crypt spawn. He could also be a new type of undead that as of now has not been given stats. As for Tammith, now that her vampire form is destroyed it should not be all that difficult to get a true resurrection spell cast to bring her back. Being a bard at around level fifteen (that's where he would have to be to successfully defeat some of the enemies that he has fought in this book) as well as having whatever additional powers that come with his undead state, raising the capital and finding a cleric capable of casting the spell should not be overly difficult. After that all he would need to do is destroy himself and have a cleric ready to resurrect him. And that would give them a happily ever after ending. Well, until they die in the next WotC plot device. Its just that with the resurrection magic being tossed around so much in the Lady Penitent series, I have a hard time believing that it is anymore rare than magic in general.
#2 tyrantbane Dec 04, 2008 10:02:16	In Libris Mortis, there's a kind of undead bard...The crypt chanter I think...Since the Undead series uses alot of monsters from this book, I suppose Bareris became one of these. As for Tammith, she's probably a swarm-shifter vampire. A template again in Libris Mortis.
#3 bonzai Dec 04, 2008 10:28:34	In Libris Mortis, there's a kind of undead bard...The crypt chanter I think...Since the Undead series uses alot of monsters from this book, I suppose Bareris became one of these. As for Tammith, she's probably a swarm-shifter vampire. A template again in Libris Mortis. Spectral Lyracist is what you were looking for.
#4 lord_karsus Dec 04, 2008 11:39:24	-I always enjoy when novels draw from a wide variety of D&D products for spells, creatures, classes, and all of that.
#5 ody_saraph_of_karsus Dec 04, 2008 14:08:33	I think (for now) that is a necropolitan since they tend to apear what they used to be before they died and he didn't show any particular talents besides being undead. Spectral Lyracist are ethereal
#6 red_wizard Dec 04, 2008 21:22:50	-I always enjoy when novels draw from a wide variety of D&D products for spells, creatures, classes, and all of that. I agree. So long as they follow the rules they're using. Personally I don't see a point in opening a supplement, and taking something from it, if you're only going to turn around and ignore it later. You may as well let the creative juices flow in their entirety. But then again, I'm still bitter at the complete disregard of the DnD system for the novel. -RW
#7 tyrantbane Dec 04, 2008 22:13:22	Spectral Lyracist is what you were looking for. In fact, Bareris is probably just on a Prestige class, the Dirgesinger...Spectral lyrist or crypt chanters are incorporeal.
#8 lord_karsus Dec 04, 2008 23:45:16	I agree. So long as they follow the rules they're using. Personally I don't see a point in opening a supplement, and taking something from it, if you're only going to turn around and ignore it later. You may as well let the creative juices flow in their entirety. But then again, I'm still bitter at the complete disregard of the DnD system for the novel. -RW -Meh, I agree, to a point. Writers, when they write, they need their poetic license. That's just part of writing. I do like my authors to stick closer to the rules than further from the rules, though.