Best way to get into the Forgoten Realms.

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#1

dko

Jul 23, 2008 20:59:25
Hi I'm a fairly experienced DM (4/5 years at the least) but I have never run a game in the Forgoten realms. I have the 3.0 campaign setting and have read what Wizards has released already on the 4th edition update. But I don't know how to get the feel for the setting so I can accurately portray it to my new group (Were starting next week). Don't want to treat it as "Ohh yeah your in Faerun... ohh look a dungeon! Go in there so I don't have to do anything that involves the outside world."

Any advice would be greatly appreciated and I hope you all understand what I'm talking about?

Cheers.
#2

serphet

Jul 23, 2008 22:04:42
well you may want to wait on the source books, they will be your best friend. Also study the DMG's section on using published campaigns. Remember that it is -your- world. Alot of FR's charm is in it's rich rich history, so "A Grand History of The Realms" is a great addition to one's tool box (especially using the point-of-light ideology, you actually get alot of ideas for ancient dungeons and slumbering powers) I'm building my FR library myself but for dm'n you only need the setting material, for that depth though you may want the novels for a particular area... so don't read a drizzt novel if you want to run a cormyr campaign, nor should you read a netheril novel if you want info on waterdeep.
#3

iamthescum

Jul 23, 2008 22:12:11
Faerun, eh? Yeah, I can get ya there. Portal's right upstairs. It's the closet door of the second bedroom. I'll sell ya the key at a reasonable price.
#4

serphet

Jul 23, 2008 22:20:25
Be careful, Sigil is a dangerous city...
#5

CCS

Jul 23, 2008 22:28:21
Well, it's pretty easy.
First you have to decide on an area to start the campaign in.
Then you need to see what type of characters the players come up with.
After that you take some time to figure out just how much of the "world" each PC is familiar with.
Then you need to create that initial session where the characters band together.

Contrary to popular belief, there's alot of area not detailed on the realms map.
It's entirely possible for characters to live in the 3.5 realms & not have a clue what's over the horizon prior to taking up the adventuring life.
As they adventure, then they come into contact with these details.

Nor do you have to use all the major places/people/events detailed over the years.
#6

wrecan

Jul 24, 2008 8:41:27
[highlight]Since this thread is asking for advice on how to run a campaign set in the Forgotten Realms, it really belongs in the forum called, appropriately, Running the Realms. I'll ask for the thread to be transferred there.

-wrecan, your friendly neighborhood forum lead[/highlight]
#7

nowiwantmydmg

Jul 24, 2008 10:20:52
In all honesty my advice would be to not. FR has some good points, but it has always been dominated by ridiculously over powered NPCs that over shadow the PCs.
#8

serphet

Jul 24, 2008 12:30:47
In all honesty my advice would be to not. FR has some good points, but it has always been dominated by ridiculously over powered NPCs that over shadow the PCs.

I'm sorry, but really that all depends ENTIRELY on the DM... And I put power npc abuse right there beside super DMPC in the amateur DM toolbox.
#9

dko

Jul 24, 2008 16:25:28
Yea I doubt Ill ever use the NPC's given to me unless its really important to do so. Even then they won't be a big part of things. Thanks for the advice so far.
#10

krownhunter07

Jul 24, 2008 23:32:43
Best way... get the new FRCG & FRPG when they come out... you're gold.
#11

colman

Jul 26, 2008 12:28:37
Where are you starting your campaign?
#12

Mr_Miscellany

Jul 26, 2008 14:14:45
In all honesty my advice would be to not. FR has some good points, but it has always been dominated by ridiculously over powered NPCs that over shadow the PCs.

The Realms were never dominated by those NPCs, it's just that those NPCs were too prominent in published products.

That said the 4E Realms will not feature many of these same NPCs, so it's a non-issue.

@DKO

Hello,

I think the best way you can get your players to 'know' they are in the Realms is to start small and work unique Realms setting details (such as words, phrases, NPC and so on) into the adventure as you go along.

For example, if you started in a town in Cormyr, you could describe to the players that they see Purple Dragons marshaling in a field, with the Swordcaptain shouting orders to the six Blades under his command.

You can roleplay uniquely Cormyrean conversations by NPCs that the PCs can overhear at an Inn or Tavern. Maybe the PCs overhear local farmers and even tradesmen complaining over the local Noble's lax management of the farmlands and how it’s high time the Crown appointed a Local Lord to replace the Noble, followed by rumors that a just arrived crown War Wizard was seen making his way to that same surely noble's home, no doubt to impress upon him the right way to do things.

Just keep it light and in the background, and let your players follow up on it if it interests them.

I’ve found that as time goes on it becomes easier to mix in adventure hooks with Realms-flavored lore.

The more your players know, the more they will start to “think Realms” at the gaming table.

Good luck!
#13

markustay63

Jul 26, 2008 20:36:06
Don't want to treat it as "Ohh yeah your in Faerun... ohh look a dungeon! Go in there so I don't have to do anything that involves the outside world."

And strangely enough, that would be perfectly acceptable in the Realms... but you'd be wasting a lot of good potential.

I found yet another 'forgotten Kingdom' in an old source awhile back and made a comment over at CK about it "I feel like I can't walk 10' in the Realms without tripping over some ruins".

The response I got (and wasn't looking for) from Ed's player and CK 'mouthpiece' - the Hooded One - was "BINGO!"

"That is EXACTLY the feel Ed has always tried to present in the Realms."

So, yeah... you can visit a different dungeon every week, because there IS one every 10'. :D
#14

Aaron_Highcolor

Jul 27, 2008 8:39:00
And strangely enough, that would be perfectly acceptable in the Realms... but you'd be wasting a lot of good potential.

I found yet another 'forgotten Kingdom' in an old source awhile back and made a comment over at CK about it "I feel like I can't walk 10' in the Realms without tripping over some ruins".

The response I got (and wasn't looking for) from Ed's player and CK 'mouthpiece' - the Hooded One - was "BINGO!"

"That is EXACTLY the feel Ed has always try to convey in the Realms."

So, yeah... you can visit a different dungeon every week, because there IS one every 10'. :D

Also, a good place for flavor/setting/fluff advice on FR content are the forums on http://www.candlekeep.com

They are generally very good at helping out.
#15

rinonalyrna_fathomlin

Jul 27, 2008 18:42:18
In all honesty my advice would be to not. FR has some good points, but it has always been dominated by ridiculously over powered NPCs that over shadow the PCs.

As said before, that's a DMing issue.

And yes, Faerun does have a lot of dungeons.
#16

18DELTA

Jul 27, 2008 22:06:02
In all honesty my advice would be to not. FR has some good points, but it has always been dominated by ridiculously over powered NPCs that over shadow the PCs.

-Not in my games! :D

-Now if you played a game in the Realms, and you were overshadowed by some Uber-NPC.

-Well...sorry about your damn luck. ;)

-Now if you are just aping what 'other' people say about the Realms, then shame on you. :D

-There was nothing wrong with the Realms. Lore Heavy yes but thats a good thing IMHO!


18DELTA ;)
#17

Mr_Miscellany

Jul 28, 2008 1:19:06
As said before, that's a DMing issue.

It's technically more than that. Far more.

Regardless, the OP is looking for info on how to get into the Realms.

Let's all of us focus on that.

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Speaking of which, another way to jump right in to the Realms is to start in a fairly well know city like Waterdeep. It's got its own local dungeon (Undermountain) and tons of flavor and is loaded with adventure hooks.
#18

rinonalyrna_fathomlin

Jul 28, 2008 12:16:05
It's technically more than that. Far more.

And I don't have the time, inclination, or responsibility to write a huge essay about it.
#19

lord_karsus

Jul 28, 2008 21:53:34


-Anyway, a good place to start would be with the right spelling. ;)