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#1 croitosan Sep 02, 2008 4:02:44	It seems odd to me that Corellon is Unaligned in PHB and Good in FRCG. What do you think he really is ? Take care, Michael
#2 sfdragon Sep 02, 2008 4:05:45	good. the corellon in the phb is NOT the same Corellon Larethian in the FR or Greyhawk. if you dont believe me ask Lord Karsus
#3 naex Sep 02, 2008 4:50:43	As a member of the Seldarine, he has always been a force for good in the Realms.
#4 keveras Sep 02, 2008 8:34:54	He's still Chaotic Good, if you'd ask me :P
#5 valgard Sep 02, 2008 9:11:41	I'm still wondering why they made Corellon unaligned in core lore.
#6 lord_karsus Sep 02, 2008 10:26:18	He's still Chaotic Good, if you'd ask me :P -Right. -'Unaligned' doesn't mean, you know, "I don't care". You can be 'Unaligned', and have a very powerful sense of goodness and justice and all of that. You're version. Which goes with Corellon Larethian quite nicely.
#7 green_elven_vampire Sep 02, 2008 12:55:40	Isn't corellon an Orc in 4ED?
#8 d1tremere Sep 02, 2008 13:58:23	I like him unaligned, it adds to the sense that there's a different way of looking at morality when you come from a plane full of fey then what you have coming from a typical human village.
#9 d1tremere Sep 02, 2008 13:58:55	Isn't corellon an Orc in 4ED? No.
#10 the_shaman Sep 02, 2008 14:48:16	Isn't corellon an Orc in 4ED? Shhh, that was supposed to be revealed in 4.5!
#11 lord_karsus Sep 02, 2008 16:40:42	Isn't corellon an Orc in 4ED? -No. -I'm actually Corellon Larethian. Karsus = Corellon Larethian. Karsus= All of the Seldarine, actually.
#12 GreenKnight Sep 02, 2008 17:54:26	Not another friggin' retcon!
#13 rinonalyrna_fathomlin Sep 02, 2008 20:15:35	It seems odd to me that Corellon is Unaligned in PHB and Good in FRCG. What do you think he really is ? Take care, Michael Either alignment works for me, actually. And I actually really like the 4E core (unaligned) Sehanine--she helped inspire a character.
#14 lord_karsus Sep 02, 2008 23:53:46	Not another friggin' retcon! -That's not a retcon. I'll admit it...I've always been the Seldarine. My NDA expired, though, so I can talk about it, now.
#15 naex Sep 03, 2008 0:29:20	-That's not a retcon. I'll admit it...I've always been the Seldarine. My NDA expired, though, so I can talk about it, now. Well if you can talk about being the Seldarine, then I can finally admit I am AO. So bow down and do my bidding... (is that screen name taken? - cause I may just take it...)
#16 drowvampyre Sep 03, 2008 2:12:12	Either alignment works for me, actually. And I actually really like the 4E core (unaligned) Sehanine--she helped inspire a character. This is something else I gotta wonder about. Why is Sehanine, previously an FR deity, now in core...but not in FR? Anyone else confused on that point?
#17 naex Sep 03, 2008 2:23:52	This is something else I gotta wonder about. Why is Sehanine, previously an FR deity, now in core...but not in FR? Anyone else confused on that point? I believe they thought Selune was more Iconic in FR, since she is featured in more of the books and was/is a central part of Shar's story.
#18 marius4 Sep 03, 2008 2:29:21	This is something else I gotta wonder about. Why is Sehanine, previously an FR deity, now in core...but not in FR? Anyone else confused on that point? Well, I think technically she's not not in FR. I think she's likely considered/revealed as an aspect of Selune, just as Hanali is considered/revealed as an aspect of Sune.
#19 naex Sep 03, 2008 2:33:00	Well, I think technically she's not not in FR. I think she's likely considered/revealed as an aspect of Selune, just as Hanali is considered/revealed as an aspect of Sune. That's also what I meant, thanks for finishing my thought.
#20 valgard Sep 03, 2008 2:37:02	So, you if you're playing 4E with an elven or eladrin cleric of Selûne, can you take the Channel Divinity feat for Sehanine? or do you need to worship Angharradh instead?
#21 naex Sep 03, 2008 2:40:33	So, you if you're playing 4E with an elven or eladrin cleric of Selûne, can you take the Channel Divinity feat for Sehanine? or do you need to worship Angharradh instead? I would say Selune, since you are worshiping that aspect of her, and Angharradh already had her own church. Basically you are just calling Selune by her Elven name.
#22 drowvampyre Sep 03, 2008 2:45:33	Well, I think technically she's not not in FR. I think she's likely considered/revealed as an aspect of Selune, just as Hanali is considered/revealed as an aspect of Sune. Bah, Sune is an aspect of Hanali! *grumbles about self-important humans*;)
#23 naex Sep 03, 2008 2:52:20	Bah, Sune is an aspect of Hanali! *grumbles about self-important humans*;) Meh. 6 of 1, half-a-dozen of the other. And who are you calling human, I am ever so much more... and less...
#24 darksideavatar Sep 03, 2008 3:16:18	Corellon cant be good...what kinda guy watches his daughter get murdered and still be good? Dunno bout you, but that dont sound very 'good' to me...
#25 Wizardman Sep 03, 2008 3:17:42	(I still don't know why the designers didn't just say that the Spellplague caused Sehanine, Hanali, and Aerdrie to permanently merge into Angharradh...) Actually, I don't know why core Corellon in Unaligned. I thought that his being Good would have made the three "fey" deities into a nice little trinity of their own. Oh well.
#26 keveras Sep 03, 2008 3:19:51	-I'm actually Corellon Larethian. Karsus = Corellon Larethian. Karsus= All of the Seldarine, actually. Amazing... but, isn't there a rumor floating around that you are a vestige? ;)
#27 lord_karsus Sep 03, 2008 10:10:24	Well if you can talk about being the Seldarine, then I can finally admit I am AO. So bow down and do my bidding... (is that screen name taken? - cause I may just take it...) -Actually, about that. Penknight figured it out: Wait a minute... Ao... Karsus... I definitely see a name similarity there! That's what happened to you, you became Ao!! Yes, it all makes sense now... Amazing... but, isn't there a rumor floating around that you are a vestige? ;) -Well, you know how rumors go.
#28 lord_karsus Sep 03, 2008 10:11:30	Corellon cant be good...what kinda guy watches his daughter get murdered and still be good? -Happens all the time, people seeing their children get grievously hurt, die, whatever. A parent who sees his/her child drown, and doesn't get there in time, are they not 'good' anymore?
#29 rinonalyrna_fathomlin Sep 03, 2008 11:07:32	This is something else I gotta wonder about. Why is Sehanine, previously an FR deity, now in core...but not in FR? Anyone else confused on that point? The designers thoughts on this (based on what they've said) are that there doesn't need to be more than one moon goddess. There's already Selune, and in their opinion she was more important to the setting than Sehanine. Thus, Selune takes over and Sehanine was simply one of her aspects. Sehanine lives on in the core setting, it's just that she's unaligned and has a different (though not drastically different) set of interests and dogma.
#30 naex Sep 03, 2008 13:59:48	-Actually, about that. Penknight figured it out: Oh well, I shall diminish, and go off into the west and remain Naex.
#31 lord_karsus Sep 03, 2008 15:16:52	Oh well, I shall diminish, and go off into the west and remain Naex. -An excellent choice. A very respectable choice.