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| #1MR._TAug 31, 2010 13:57:51 | As I'm finishing up Elminster Must Die, good stuff by the way, I can't help but notice the frequent and distracting use of "stlarn" and "farrack". I've also noticed the increasing use of sexuality (Storm's exit from Cormyr via a portal as an example). I don't mind the latter, nor really the former I guess, so long as they keep publishing. Just curious what others think? Have you noticed a change of tone in some of the recent novels compared to the older ones? I suppose part of it has to do with appealing to a maturing audience, or something like that. Any way, thoughts? |
| #2Nai_CalusAug 31, 2010 14:11:10 | Frankly, considering the habits of nearly everyone I know and the general occupation of most people in fantasy novels, it throws me off more when people aren't swearing all the godsdamned time. |
| #3StiggerAug 31, 2010 19:31:45 | As Correlon's ( ) boytoy said, it suprises me more when they aren't than when they are... |
| #4AbsintaSep 26, 2010 19:24:15 | Yeah, if anything it bugs me more that they have to have made-up expletives instead of the real ones. |
| #5IluvrienSep 27, 2010 2:56:51 | Not much of a change in tone, Ed is getting better and better as his novels continue to pour out. "Stlarn" and "Farruk" seem to be Cormyrean more than anything else, a certain Moneylender's hearty "Naed" reminded me that there might been local differences in expletive use. As for any increased sexuality inherent in Storm's exit... that is certainly nothing new. Silverfall, for example, was published in 1999 by TSR (pre WotC even) and carries much of the same behaviour.... as does The Seven Sisters 2E sourcebook. The Sisters are always like that ;). |
| #6The_SilverswordSep 27, 2010 23:48:52 | Well the Realms are a whole different world so it makes sense that they would have different words for **** and **** or ************** and the like |
| #7MWSAberSep 28, 2010 12:10:21 | I'd start here: www3.sympatico.ca/brooksdr/haddock/main.... and change to refelct the region |
| #8MR._TSep 28, 2010 13:58:41 | As for any increased sexuality inherent in Storm's exit... that is certainly nothing new. Silverfall, for example, was published in 1999 by TSR (pre WotC even) and carries much of the same behaviour.... as does The Seven Sisters 2E sourcebook. The Sisters are always like that ;). That may be so... It's been a spell, pun intended, since I've read either. ![]() |
| #9eriksdbSep 29, 2010 10:29:05 | I do think the FR novel line is headed in a more mature direction (still PG-13, but more hard than soft), which I applaud. I think the flirtatiousness has always been there, though maybe a little less contrived/fade-to-black than before, which is a good sign. WotC is putting out plenty of books more appropriate to younger readers, including a very successful Mirrorstone/YA line (under the talented Nina Hess), and I think Bill Slavicsek's recent The Mark of Nerath is aimed at younger readers (like in the 13-16 range). I have in the past advocated that WotC publish a specifically mature line (for readers age 18+), and I still support that concept. I think we'd get better fiction out of it, as well as clearer marketing. Hasbro would likely think twice before doing such a thing, however. In terms of my characters swearing, I am a particular fan of the words "stlaern" and "tluin," occasionally "hrast," and often use the phrase "godsdamned" (as there are MULTIPLE gods to swear by). My characters also often use curses that refer to deities and their body parts, however, such as (to offer some silly examples) "Beshaba's Bountiful Bosom!" or "Loviatar's Lascivious Lips!" or "Cyric's--" Well, you get the idea. Cheers |
| #10suin_bahhar_02Sep 29, 2010 17:00:53 | You mean by "Bane's Bouncing/Bloody Balls", "Aumanator's Acrid Armpit", "Sune's Sweet Spot" or "Torm's Two Teeth". Watch out with using these to many times, you could attract unwanted attention ('s what Fearunian parents with some decency would say to their children). I like "Tequassi" as a general elven curse. Has a right edge to it. I would totally dig any mature FR novel, I generally consider the tone of story I enjoy in fantasy literature have matured quite a bit since I first started reading, so movement to more mature themes and language in the Realms would definately fit for for me. This way the shadier sides of the Realms can get some more favourable spotlight, possibly increasing the believability of ruthless evil organisations such as Zhents who have had bad reputation of only achieving comedic failures. I know Ed enjoys exploring the darker sides of magic and mystery, so uncut necromantic novels with subtle demonic undertones from Greenwoods hand would likely be pure evil. *shudders* |
| #11MR._TSep 30, 2010 12:47:06 | I know Ed enjoys exploring the darker sides of magic and mystery, so uncut necromantic novels with subtle demonic undertones from Greenwoods hand would likely be pure evil. *shudders* I would read that shiz in a second. ![]() |