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#1
colman
Jul 23, 2008 16:48:45 Are there more details on the Thunder Peaks anywhere? I have Elminster's Ecologies, but I can't find any clue as to what height they are.
#2
Stigger
Jul 23, 2008 16:58:33 Volo's Guide to Cormyr and the Cormyr accessory, both from 2e, had very, very limited entries on them, and Volo's Guide to the Dales may have had a few, brief snippets as well. Not aware of much on them though to be honest.
#3
colman
Jul 23, 2008 17:15:06 Hmm. Well, since they go above the tree-line, they must be in excess of 12,000 feet (according to the 1e Wilderness Survival Guide!) and the Alps run up to 15,000 feet or so, let's take that as a guide. EE suggest they're unusually steep and rugged, so we can reach those altitudes over the relatively small footprint of the range.
#4
colman
Jul 24, 2008 1:09:24
Not aware of much on them though to be honest.

Isn't that weird, for mountains on the edge of very active adventuring areas, the Dales, Cormyr, Sembia?

There isn't any topographical map of Faerun, is there?
#5
panics
Jul 24, 2008 7:25:58 2e sourcebooklet: Cormyr, Dalelands.

They have good informations about the Thunder Peaks. These Peaks are characterized by an over "normal" lightnings and stormy area. They used to be larger in 2e maps. 3e and 4e have considerably reduced these once massive mountains.
#6
lord_karsus
Jul 29, 2008 2:08:27
Isn't that weird, for mountains on the edge of very active adventuring areas, the Dales, Cormyr, Sembia?

-No, not really. Maybe they're just so uninteresting that no one really ventured up there, and thus, there aren't many accounts. :P

There isn't any topographical map of Faerun, is there?

-There was one in the FRIA, sort of, I believe. Memory is fuzzy.
#7
colman
Jul 29, 2008 2:10:48
-There was one in the FRIA, sort of, I believe. Memory is fuzzy.

That's not available any more, is it?
#8
lord_karsus
Jul 29, 2008 2:12:05
That's not available any more, is it?

-Only on eBay for insane prices, that no old CD should cost.
#9
markustay63
Jul 29, 2008 11:24:01 There was also an ancient Dwarf Kingdom under those mountains called Thunderholme (thats cursed and full of undead dwarves), a Netherease Survivor state (Orva) in the nearby Vast Swamp, and an Elvish Kingdom (really just a sub-Kingdom under Cormanthor) in the adjoining forest. All of those are long-gone, but all offer oportunity for adventuring in the region.

BTW - anyone happen to know the name of that sub-kingdom? I can't seem to locate it in my notes. I believe it is the same one that interacts with Cormyr near the beginning of that nation's history. I think it was 'Uvaraen' or something like that.

Isn't that weird, for mountains on the edge of very active adventuring areas, the Dales, Cormyr, Sembia?

There isn't any topographical map of Faerun, is there?

Check This thread at Candlekeep for a topographical map done by a poster named Patrakis. I believe the latest WIP is located toward the bottom of the thread.

I think I might not be needed anymore.
#10
naex
Jul 29, 2008 11:28:23 Also a reference in Elder Evils (An ancient being from the Far Realms trapped under a glacier).
#11
markustay63
Jul 29, 2008 11:38:05 In the Thunder Peaks?

Cool... I'll have to check that, Thanks.

A possible tie-in to the curse of Thunderholme, maybe?
#12
iakhovas
Jul 29, 2008 13:10:28 The elven domain that existed in the lands known today as Cormyr was called Cormanthir (which was a sub-kingdom of greater Cormanthyr). This is from Cormyr: A Novel
BTW - anyone happen to know the name of that sub-kingdom? I can't seem to locate it in my notes. I believe it is the same one that interacts with Cormyr near the beginning of that nation's history. I think it was 'Uvaraen' or something like that.

#13
markustay63
Jul 29, 2008 14:22:43 That was the land Ulvaraen (sp?) was from? I could have sworn there was yet another located in the woods just north of the Thunderpeaks, that co-existed for a short time with Myth-Drannor.

Hmmmm.... I must remember where I read that... perhaps it was some musing by George Krashos...

I HATE when I don't write stuff down (which is practically all the time).
#14
naex
Jul 29, 2008 18:35:05
That was the land Ulvaraen (sp?) was from? I could have sworn there was yet another located in the woods just north of the Thunderpeaks, that co-existed for a short time with Myth-Drannor.

Hmmmm.... I must remember where I read that... perhaps it was some musing by George Krashos...

I HATE when I don't write stuff down (which is practically all the time).

I think you meant Uvaeren. It is in the GHotR (best D&D reference book ever!!!) mostly the start of new Rysars.
#15
lord_karsus
Jul 29, 2008 21:44:00 -Information on Uvaeren can be found in Elves of Faerûn.
#16
crazedventurers
Jul 31, 2008 3:21:42 From a post to the Realms mailing list a few years ago

The Twelve Nights of Fire. Again, the best information that we have on this
event is found in C:EoE. There, it mentions that in -5000 DR, a falling star destroys the elven realm of Uvaeren (which was south of the Rystal Woods, located where Mistledale now stands). This star also opened up a 100 mile long, 30 mile wide clearing in the Cormanthyr treeline.

Cheers

Damian
#17
lord_karsus
Jul 31, 2008 22:09:31 -Just to mention it for the sake of mentioning it, EoF's piece is much longer and much more in depth. ;)
#18
laerekh_jaelre
Aug 01, 2008 16:56:39 IMO Information on the Thunder Peaks is limited because it's home to way too many Orc, Giants, and Dragons to be properly explored. I for one am not going to risk it in order to make a stupid topography map.
#19
colman
Aug 02, 2008 6:12:26
I for one am not going to risk it in order to make a stupid topography map.

Wuss.
#20
lord_karsus
Aug 02, 2008 12:06:06 -This is a problem I am currently deal with in my own setting: How to reconcile things like that (where people don't want to do X, because of Y, which leads to some incomplete information) with a world where magic is so very common.
#21
markustay63
Aug 02, 2008 12:19:57 Someone pointed me to more info on this region in Prayers from the Faithful - there's several places where various creatures and people live in and around the Thunderpeaks, including many Dragons...

In fact... perhaps TOO MANY Dragons for one region (although they were spread out time-wise).

I think no-one ever bothered to do a "History of the Thunderpeaks" because the info is spread out in so many sources - I even found some stuff in Dwarves Deep!

If all of it was collected together and a timeline worked out, I have a bad feeling that certain things would overlap in an impossible way - maybe thats why the designers tend to steer clear of adding more detail on the the Thunderpeaks.

This is clearly one of the cases that lead to the creation of 4e FR - there is a great amount of lore, but it is nearly impossible to reconcile all of the sources.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 colman Jul 23, 2008 16:48:45	Are there more details on the Thunder Peaks anywhere? I have Elminster's Ecologies, but I can't find any clue as to what height they are.
#2 Stigger Jul 23, 2008 16:58:33	Volo's Guide to Cormyr and the Cormyr accessory, both from 2e, had very, very limited entries on them, and Volo's Guide to the Dales may have had a few, brief snippets as well. Not aware of much on them though to be honest.
#3 colman Jul 23, 2008 17:15:06	Hmm. Well, since they go above the tree-line, they must be in excess of 12,000 feet (according to the 1e Wilderness Survival Guide!) and the Alps run up to 15,000 feet or so, let's take that as a guide. EE suggest they're unusually steep and rugged, so we can reach those altitudes over the relatively small footprint of the range.
#4 colman Jul 24, 2008 1:09:24	Not aware of much on them though to be honest. Isn't that weird, for mountains on the edge of very active adventuring areas, the Dales, Cormyr, Sembia? There isn't any topographical map of Faerun, is there?
#5 panics Jul 24, 2008 7:25:58	2e sourcebooklet: Cormyr, Dalelands. They have good informations about the Thunder Peaks. These Peaks are characterized by an over "normal" lightnings and stormy area. They used to be larger in 2e maps. 3e and 4e have considerably reduced these once massive mountains.
#6 lord_karsus Jul 29, 2008 2:08:27	Isn't that weird, for mountains on the edge of very active adventuring areas, the Dales, Cormyr, Sembia? -No, not really. Maybe they're just so uninteresting that no one really ventured up there, and thus, there aren't many accounts. :P There isn't any topographical map of Faerun, is there? -There was one in the FRIA, sort of, I believe. Memory is fuzzy.
#7 colman Jul 29, 2008 2:10:48	-There was one in the FRIA, sort of, I believe. Memory is fuzzy. That's not available any more, is it?
#8 lord_karsus Jul 29, 2008 2:12:05	That's not available any more, is it? -Only on eBay for insane prices, that no old CD should cost.
#9 markustay63 Jul 29, 2008 11:24:01	There was also an ancient Dwarf Kingdom under those mountains called Thunderholme (thats cursed and full of undead dwarves), a Netherease Survivor state (Orva) in the nearby Vast Swamp, and an Elvish Kingdom (really just a sub-Kingdom under Cormanthor) in the adjoining forest. All of those are long-gone, but all offer oportunity for adventuring in the region. BTW - anyone happen to know the name of that sub-kingdom? I can't seem to locate it in my notes. I believe it is the same one that interacts with Cormyr near the beginning of that nation's history. I think it was 'Uvaraen' or something like that. Isn't that weird, for mountains on the edge of very active adventuring areas, the Dales, Cormyr, Sembia? There isn't any topographical map of Faerun, is there? Check This thread at Candlekeep for a topographical map done by a poster named Patrakis. I believe the latest WIP is located toward the bottom of the thread. I think I might not be needed anymore.
#10 naex Jul 29, 2008 11:28:23	Also a reference in Elder Evils (An ancient being from the Far Realms trapped under a glacier).
#11 markustay63 Jul 29, 2008 11:38:05	In the Thunder Peaks? Cool... I'll have to check that, Thanks. A possible tie-in to the curse of Thunderholme, maybe?
#12 iakhovas Jul 29, 2008 13:10:28	The elven domain that existed in the lands known today as Cormyr was called Cormanthir (which was a sub-kingdom of greater Cormanthyr). This is from Cormyr: A Novel BTW - anyone happen to know the name of that sub-kingdom? I can't seem to locate it in my notes. I believe it is the same one that interacts with Cormyr near the beginning of that nation's history. I think it was 'Uvaraen' or something like that.
#13 markustay63 Jul 29, 2008 14:22:43	That was the land Ulvaraen (sp?) was from? I could have sworn there was yet another located in the woods just north of the Thunderpeaks, that co-existed for a short time with Myth-Drannor. Hmmmm.... I must remember where I read that... perhaps it was some musing by George Krashos... I HATE when I don't write stuff down (which is practically all the time).
#14 naex Jul 29, 2008 18:35:05	That was the land Ulvaraen (sp?) was from? I could have sworn there was yet another located in the woods just north of the Thunderpeaks, that co-existed for a short time with Myth-Drannor. Hmmmm.... I must remember where I read that... perhaps it was some musing by George Krashos... I HATE when I don't write stuff down (which is practically all the time). I think you meant Uvaeren. It is in the GHotR (best D&D reference book ever!!!) mostly the start of new Rysars.
#15 lord_karsus Jul 29, 2008 21:44:00	-Information on Uvaeren can be found in Elves of Faerûn.
#16 crazedventurers Jul 31, 2008 3:21:42	From a post to the Realms mailing list a few years ago The Twelve Nights of Fire. Again, the best information that we have on this event is found in C:EoE. There, it mentions that in -5000 DR, a falling star destroys the elven realm of Uvaeren (which was south of the Rystal Woods, located where Mistledale now stands). This star also opened up a 100 mile long, 30 mile wide clearing in the Cormanthyr treeline. Cheers Damian
#17 lord_karsus Jul 31, 2008 22:09:31	-Just to mention it for the sake of mentioning it, EoF's piece is much longer and much more in depth. ;)
#18 laerekh_jaelre Aug 01, 2008 16:56:39	IMO Information on the Thunder Peaks is limited because it's home to way too many Orc, Giants, and Dragons to be properly explored. I for one am not going to risk it in order to make a stupid topography map.
#19 colman Aug 02, 2008 6:12:26	I for one am not going to risk it in order to make a stupid topography map. Wuss.
#20 lord_karsus Aug 02, 2008 12:06:06	-This is a problem I am currently deal with in my own setting: How to reconcile things like that (where people don't want to do X, because of Y, which leads to some incomplete information) with a world where magic is so very common.
#21 markustay63 Aug 02, 2008 12:19:57	Someone pointed me to more info on this region in Prayers from the Faithful - there's several places where various creatures and people live in and around the Thunderpeaks, including many Dragons... In fact... perhaps TOO MANY Dragons for one region (although they were spread out time-wise). I think no-one ever bothered to do a "History of the Thunderpeaks" because the info is spread out in so many sources - I even found some stuff in Dwarves Deep! If all of it was collected together and a timeline worked out, I have a bad feeling that certain things would overlap in an impossible way - maybe thats why the designers tend to steer clear of adding more detail on the the Thunderpeaks. This is clearly one of the cases that lead to the creation of 4e FR - there is a great amount of lore, but it is nearly impossible to reconcile all of the sources.