That being said I want Drizzt to come into play at the end of that game session (prehaps help fight the last boss mob or something along those lines) but after reading all the books it seems almost impossible (with the rules we have up to this point) to do such a thing. Can anyone out there help me out a bit? Im not asking for a full pre-built Drizzt (although if you did that I would definatly look at it) but just some idea about what to do about twinkle and icingdeath and what class he should be. Prehaps fighter 10 Ranger 6? Since there is nolonger a Barb.
DRIZZT DO’URDEN
DROW RANGER 17
STR: 13 (+1), CON: 15 (+2), DEX: 20 (+5), INT: 17 (+3), WIS: 17 (+3), CHA: 14 (+2)
ARMOR CLASS: 33, FORT DEFENSE: 21, REF DEFENSE: 25, WILL DEFENSE: 21
INITIATIVE: +6, SPEED: 6 Squares
HIT POINTS: 117, BLOODIED: 58, HEALING SURGE: 29, SURGES PER DAY: 8
SIZE: Medium, VISION: Darkvision
RACIAL FEATURES: Trance, Lolthtouched (Cloud of Darkness, Darkfire)
RANGER CLASS FEATURES: Fighting Style (Two-Blade Fighting Style), Hunter’s Quarry, Prime Shot
LANGUAGES: Common, Elven
SKILLS: Acrobatics +13, Arcana +11, Bluff +10, Diplomacy +10, Endurance +10, Heal +11, History +11, Insight +11, Intimidate +10, Religion +11, Streetwise +10, Thievery +13
TRAINED SKILLS: Athletics +14, Dungeoneering +16, Nature +16, Perception +16, Stealth +20
FEATS: Armor Proficiency (Chainmail), Armor Specialization (Chainmail), Combat Reflexes, Defensive Mobility, Fleet-Footed, Improved Initiative, Quick Draw, Toughness, Two-Weapon Defense, Two-Weapon Fighting, Weapon Focus (Heavy Blades)
EQUIPMENT: +4 Forgemail, Icingdeath (+3 Frost Scimitar)
Woa. Nice. He should take the scimitar dance feat and heavy blade opportunity though. Otherwise he'd be kinda weak with his scimitar attacks.
True, but unfortunately, he doesn't meet the prerequisites for either. They need Str 15 and he's got Str 13. Fast Runner would also be a good one for him. If he wasn't listed as having Mithral Chainmail in the books, I would've gone for Hide Armor instead and dropped those two Chainmail related Feats.
I really like what you have done so far, that was very much along the same lines I was screwing around with in my head. Icingdeath seems about right, but I still have no idea what we are going to do about Twinkle unless either A you just make a House Rule that Defender is still around, or B I have missed something in the books that addresses this problem.
Well, Adventurer's Vault comes out in September. So hopefully it'll have rules for Defender weapons. Til then, I'd simply houserule Twinkle as a +2 Magic Scimitar which also counts as a Heavy Shield (I.E. Provides a +2 bonus to AC and Reflex Defense).
With Drizzt being on the cover of the FRCG
He's not on the cover. That image is just a placeholder. THIS is the cover.
As for his stats, alright, then. Let's drop his Int two points and increase his Str two points, and drop the Chainmail Feats as well (giving him Hide Armor, instead). That'd give us...
DRIZZT DO’URDEN
DROW RANGER 17
STR: 15 (+2), CON: 15 (+2), DEX: 20 (+5), INT: 15 (+2), WIS: 17 (+3), CHA: 14 (+2)
ARMOR CLASS: 32, FORT DEFENSE: 21, REF DEFENSE: 25, WILL DEFENSE: 21
INITIATIVE: +6, SPEED: 7 Squares
HIT POINTS: 117, BLOODIED: 58, HEALING SURGE: 29, SURGES PER DAY: 8
SIZE: Medium, VISION: Darkvision
RACIAL FEATURES: Trance, Lolthtouched (Cloud of Darkness, Darkfire)
RANGER CLASS FEATURES: Fighting Style (Two-Blade Fighting Style), Hunter’s Quarry, Prime Shot
LANGUAGES: Common, Elven
SKILLS: Acrobatics +13, Arcana +10, Bluff +10, Diplomacy +10, Endurance +10, Heal +11, History +10, Insight +11, Intimidate +10, Religion +10, Streetwise +10, Thievery +13
TRAINED SKILLS: Athletics +15, Dungeoneering +16, Nature +16, Perception +16, Stealth +20
FEATS: Combat Reflexes, Defensive Mobility, Fleet-Footed, Heavy Blade Opportunity, Improved Initiative, Quick Draw, Scimitar Dance, Toughness, Two-Weapon Defense, Two-Weapon Fighting, Weapon Focus (Heavy Blades)
EQUIPMENT: +4 Darkhide Armor, Icingdeath (+3 Frost Scimitar)
100 years afterwards he would have gained atleast 3 lvls puting him in epic
ecl is gone, and we never found out his lvls after the hunter's blades.
100 years afterwards he would have gained atleast 3 lvls puting him in epic
thats a great point, with the ECL gone, it seems to me that he would have went from 16 to 18 (since the drow had a ECL of 2)
ecl is gone
That wouldn't affect anything. He was 17th level because he was 17th level. Not because they wanted him to be the equivalent of a 19th or 20th level character.
and we never found out his lvls after the hunter's blades.
100 years afterwards he would have gained atleast 3 lvls puting him in epic
True, but a simple conversion is easiest at the moment. Levels can be added to that, afterwards.
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...Drizzt may have brown skin and black hair now. This is entirely speculative, as nothing was directly mentioned about him. However, at the end of the book, all of the good-aligned/inclined Drow are redeemed by the undoing of the high magic that bound them to the Faerzress, and made them Drow. They then turn back into (surface) Dark Elves. All the remaining Drow are pretty much left to Lolth's clutches. Thus, it would seem to reason that Drizzt is likely among the transformed.
The drow’s long, thick white hair blew in the late afternoon breeze
“Perhaps,” Drizzt replied, and in the blink of an astonished eye, he brought his scimitars out in his black-skinned hands.
for the moment consider both
SHIELDING WEAPON
Weapon: Heavy Blade, Light Blade
Enhancement: Attack rolls and damage rolls
Critical: +1d6 damage per plus
Property: This weapon provides a shield bonus that you add to your AC and your Reflex Defense equal to the weapons enhancement bonus. The bearer must be proficient with the weapon in order to gain this bonus.
No GP value, but unnecessary. So Twinkle would be a +2 Shielding Scimitar, which does +2 to hit, +2 to damage, +2d6 on criticals, and grants Drizzt a +2 shield bonus to AC and Reflex Defense. And there you go.
It doesn't appear so. From the prelude to The Orc King (which occures in the 4E Realms)...
-Well, I guess Drizzt's soul is utterly irredeamable, as per all of the Lady Penitent stuff...
-Well, I guess Drizzt's soul is utterly irredeamable, as per all of the Lady Penitent stuff...
I find it hilarious that Drizzt is not "one of the saved", according to the LP trilogy.
I find it hilarious that Drizzt is not "one of the saved", according to the LP trilogy.
-You and me both.
I just cannot wait until the book comes out in August so we will find out for sure about the offical stats, for now I will just base my version on the one posted here.
-Most of the "famous" NPCs aren't going to have official stats. Drizzt is one I'd consider "famous".
Since I havent been around the D&D boards very long I will believe it when you say that many of the "famous" character stats wont be in the 4e FR, but why on earth would they do that? Characters like Drizzt and Elminster are two of the most famous characters that have been in D&D, and since books are still being made about each and both are still in the lime light why would they leave them out?
Actually no--the designers don't want these characters to be in the limelight, as they believe having NPCs in the limelight was putting people off the setting.
Don't know about Drizzt, but Rich said Elminster will probably get some very basic stats (ie. name, class, level), and that's it.
-Most of the "famous" NPCs aren't going to have official stats. Drizzt is one I'd consider "famous".
Well it's possible that stats will appear via DDI. I do think you are right in that they wont show up in the published books.
FR has been (as far as myself and many others I know) the marquee setting, and thats all because of the rich history of characters like Drizzt, Wulfgar, Elminster and others, they are a part of the FR, now I understand that its 100 (I believe thats what I read) years later but elves live for a rather long time, and wizards as powerful as Elminster should be around, not having these characters in the world would be a travisty!
I totally agree with you that the NPCs help make the setting special.
However, I explained why I think it's doubtful that many (if any) NPCs will be getting full state writeups in the forthcoming sourcebooks.
Since I havent been around the D&D boards very long I will believe it when you say that many of the "famous" character stats wont be in the 4e FR, but why on earth would they do that? Characters like Drizzt and Elminster are two of the most famous characters that have been in D&D, and since books are still being made about each and both are still in the lime light why would they leave them out?
-To get DMs to take them out of the limelight, where they don't necessarily belong, and put them in backstage, so that the PCs in the campaign can step into the limelight.
Well it's possible that stats will appear via DDI.
-Good point. I don't necessarily think so, but one never knows.
Please dont get me wrong, I am thankful for your reasoning, and I am not disagreeing with said reasoning, I just hope (and I hate to say this) that your wrong. People like myself and the others who have tried to work out his stats here could continue to do what we have been doing in this thread. Doing what we can, trying to make Drizzt (and his other but maybe less famous counterparts) for our games but without something offical it will always seem a bit off.
-Well, it's confirmed that most NPCs will be receiving (if any) small statblocks.
-That doesn't stop anyone from making up their own stats, though. Continue doing what you're doing.
Drizzt is one of Lloth's minions...he is moving according to her plan (even though he doesn't like it/doesn't know about it)...Remember people, don't judge a book by it's cover.
-According to a fanatic (Cleric) in one book, who might have been right, or might have been wrong.
DRIZZT DO’URDEN
DROW RANGER 17
STR: 13 (+1), CON: 15 (+2), DEX: 20 (+5), INT: 17 (+3), WIS: 17 (+3), CHA: 14 (+2)
ARMOR CLASS: 33, FORT DEFENSE: 21, REF DEFENSE: 25, WILL DEFENSE: 21
INITIATIVE: +6, SPEED: 6 Squares
HIT POINTS: 117, BLOODIED: 58, HEALING SURGE: 29, SURGES PER DAY: 8
SIZE: Medium, VISION: Darkvision
RACIAL FEATURES: Trance, Lolthtouched (Cloud of Darkness, Darkfire)
RANGER CLASS FEATURES: Fighting Style (Two-Blade Fighting Style), Hunter’s Quarry, Prime Shot
STORMWARDEN FEATURES: Blade Storm, Stormstep Action, Twin Blade Storm.
LANGUAGES: Common, Elven
SKILLS: Acrobatics +13, Arcana +11, Bluff +10, Diplomacy +10, Endurance +10, Heal +11, History +11, Insight +11, Intimidate +10, Religion +11, Streetwise +10, Thievery +13
TRAINED SKILLS: Athletics +14, Dungeoneering +16, Nature +16, Perception +16, Stealth +20
FEATS: Armor Proficiency (Chainmail), Combat Reflexes, Defensive Mobility, Fleet-Footed, Improved Initiative, Quick Draw, Toughness, Two-Weapon Defense, Two-Weapon Fighting, Uncanny Dodge, Weapon Focus (Heavy Blades)
AT-WILL POWERS: Nimble Strike, Twin Strike.
ENCOUNTER POWERS Cut and Run, Nimble Defence, Sweeping Whirlwind, Two-Weapon Eviscerate.
DAILY POWERS Attacks on the Run, Blade Cascade, Sudden Strike.
UTILITY POWERS Evade Ambush, Evade the Blow, Throw Caution to the Wind, Unbalancing Parry, Undaunted Stride.
EQUIPMENT: +4 Forgemail, Icingdeath (+3 Frost Scimitar)
I have replaced the feat Armour Specialization(Chainmail) with Uncanny Dodge as I don't believe Drizzt is noted for his use of armour to such a deree. Rather his preternatural ability to avoid attacks that would catch others off guard is remarked upon more often in the books.
Please tweak and expand upon where necassary.
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I find it hilarious that Drizzt is not "one of the saved", according to the LP trilogy.
It's simple. Jet black skin is cool, mysterious, ninja-like. Dark brown skin is what real world black people have. Most Drizzt fans are white. Identifying with jet-black-Drizzt is easier than dark-brown-Drizzt. Funny but probably true.
I think Drizzt should be statted as a monster. You can get better results, more true to the books.
So which is it?
Please dont get me wrong, I am thankful for your reasoning, and I am not disagreeing with said reasoning, I just hope (and I hate to say this) that your wrong.
Hey, that's fine.
Maybe they will stat Drizzt. No one knows at this point, though.Maybe we will get a sneak peek at the FR book next month, and hopefully it will have more info on the characters. What they put in the book in regards to NPCs really is going to determine if I buy the FR book for myself or if I just let one of my players buy it.
-Hey, I'd let them buy it, regardless. ;)
Maybe we will get a sneak peek at the FR book next month, and hopefully it will have more info on the characters. What they put in the book in regards to NPCs really is going to determine if I buy the FR book for myself or if I just let one of my players buy it.
Hell, if I could get my players to buy my books for me I'd do that every time ;)
Surprisingly, even a lvl 1 ranger can represent Drizzt's cababilities very well. He was built using point-buy for the ability scores, and he is shown at lvls 1, 11, and 20 (imo he would be 20 after the latest novel, but shouldn't be epic). The "Demonslayer" property for Icingdeath was customized based off the "Dragonslayer" weapon property. Enjoy! :D
Drizzt Do’Urden, Drow Ranger 1
STR 14 +2 HP 29; BLOODIED 14
CON 12 +1 SURGE 7 PER DAY 7
DEX 18 +4 AC 16; FORT 13, REF 15, WILL 12
INT 11 +0 INIT 6; SPEED 6
WIS 14 +2
CHA 10 +0
RACIAL: Trance; Darkvision; Cloud of Darkness or Darkfire 1/encounter
CLASS: Two-Blade Fighting Style; Hunter’s Quarry +1d6
SKILLS: Acrobatics +9, Dungeoneering +7, Nature +7, Perception +7, Stealth +11
FEATS: Toughness (+5 hp per tier), Quick Draw
Basic Attack:
Scimitar +5 vs AC; 1d8+2 (High Crit extra 1[W])
[Off-Hand] same as main
POWERS:
At-Will:
Hit and Run +5 vs AC; 1d8+2 (no opportunity attacks for moving)
Twin Strike +5/+5 vs AC; 1d8/1d8
Encounter:
Dire Wolverine Strike +5 vs AC (Close Burst 1); 1d8+2
*Cloud of Darkness (Close Burst 1) Cover or Blindness
*Darkfire +2 vs Ref (Ranged 10); Combat Advantage, Stealth Supression
*See Racial
Daily:
Hunter’s Bear Trap +5 vs AC; 2d8+2; Slowed; Ongoing 5
[Miss] ½ dmg; Slowed
EQUIPMENT: Leather Armor, Scimitar (x2), Standard Adventurer's Kit
Drizzt Do’Urden, Drow Pathfinder Ranger 11
STR 16 +3 HP 86; BLOODIED 43
CON 14 +2 SURGE 21 PER DAY 10
DEX 20 +5 AC 29; FORT 19, REF 22, WILL 18
INT 12 +1 INIT 12; SPEED 6
WIS 16 +3
CHA 11 +0
RACIAL: Trance; Darkvision; Cloud of Darkness or Darkfire 1/encounter
CLASS: Two-Blade Fighting Style; Hunter’s Quarry +2d8; Pathfinder’s Action
SKILLS: Acrobatics +15, Dungeoneering +13, Nature +13, Perception +15, Stealth +17
FEATS: Alertness, Evasion, Lethal Hunter, Toughness (+5 hp per tier), Quick Draw, Weapon Focus (Heavy Blades), Two Weapon Defense, Two Weapon Fighting,
Basic Attack:
Twinkle +14 vs AC; 1d8+9 (High Crit extra 1[W])
[Off-Hand] Icingdeath +13 vs AC; 1d8+7 (High Crit extra 1[W])
POWERS:
At-Will:
Hit and Run +14 vs AC; 1d8+9 (no opportunity attacks for moving)
Twin Strike +14/+13 vs AC ; 1d8+6/1d8+4
Encounter:
Cut and Run +14/+13 vs AC; 1d8+9/1d8+7; shift 4 during or after
Disruptive Strike +14 vs AC (Immediate Reaction); 1d8+9; -5 to hit
Sweeping Whirlwind +14 vs AC (Close Burst 1); 1d8+9, push 3, prone
Wrong Step +14 vs AC; 2d8+9 (Immediate Interrupt) Immobilized
Item Power +2 Speed until end of next turn
*Cloud of Darkness (Close Burst 1) Cover or Blindness
*Darkfire +2 vs Ref (Ranged 10); Combat Advantage, Stealth Suppression
*See Racial
Daily:
Hunter’s Bear Trap +11 vs AC; 2d8+9; Slowed; Ongoing 5; [Miss] ½ dmg, Slowed
Two Wolf Pounce: 2 attacks, shift 2, attack 3rd time
Attacks on the Run: 2 attacks + move; 3d8+9; [Miss] ½ dmg
Utility:
Unbalancing Parry (Immediate Reaction - Encounter) Slide Enemy & Combat Advantage
Evade Ambush (3 party members avoid surprise) Daily
Weave Through the Fray (Immediate Reaction – Encounter) Shift 3 from enemy
EQUIPMENT: Standard Adventurer's Kit, Elven Battle Armor (Drow) +2,
Twinkle (magic +3), Icingdeath (demonslayer +2)
DEMONSLAYER WEAPON---Level 10+
The bane of demonkind.
Lvl 10 +2 5,000 gp------Lvl 25 +5 625,000 gp
Lvl 15 +3 25,000 gp-----Lvl 30 +6 3,125,000 gp
Lvl 20 +4 125,000 gp
Weapon: Any
Enhancement: Attack rolls and damage rolls
Critical: +1d8 damage per plus, or +1d12 frost damage per plus against demons
Property: This weapon provides resistance against fire attacks, as shown below.
Level 10: Resist 5
Level 15 or 20: Resist 10
Level 25 or 30: Resist 15
Power (Daily): Minor Action. Your next attack with this weapon against a demon, if made before the end of your turn, gains a +5 power bonus to the attack roll and automatically ignores any resistance the demon has.
Drizzt Do’Urden, Drow Pathfinder Ranger 20
STR 18 +4 HP 131; BLOODIED 65
CON 14 +2 SURGE 32 PER DAY 10
DEX 22 +6 AC 40; FORT 30, REF 33, WILL 28
INT 12 +1 INIT 18; SPEED 6
WIS 16 +3
CHA 11 +0
RACIAL: Trance; Darkvision; Cloud of Darkness or Darkfire 1/encounter
CLASS: Two-Blade Fighting Style; Hunter’s Quarry +2d8; Pathfinder’s Action
SKILLS: Acrobatics +21, Dungeoneering +18, Nature +18, Perception +21, Stealth +23
FEATS: Alertness, Evasion, Lethal Hunter, Toughness (+5 hp per tier), Quick Draw, Weapon Focus (Heavy Blades), Two Weapon Defense, Two Weapon Fighting, Danger Sense (higher of 2 init rolls), Sieze the Moment (Combat Advantage for high init), Heavy Blade Opportunity (at wills on opportunity attacks), Secret Stride, Scimitar Dance (6 dmg on miss)
Basic Attack:
Twinkle +21 vs AC; 1d8+12 (High Crit extra 1[W])
[Off-Hand] Icingdeath +20 vs AC; 1d8+10 (High Crit extra 1[W])
POWERS:
At-Will:
Hit and Run +21 vs AC; 1d8+12 (no opportunity attacks for moving)
Twin Strike +21/+20 vs AC ; 1d8+8/1d8+6
Encounter:
Cut and Run +21/+20 vs AC; 1d8+12/1d8+10; shift 4 during or after
Disruptive Strike +21 vs AC (Immediate Reaction); 1d8+12; -5 to hit
Sweeping Whirlwind +21 vs AC (Close Burst 1); 1d8+12, push 3, prone
Wrong Step +21 vs AC; 2d8+12 (Immediate Interrupt) Immobilized
*Cloud of Darkness (Close Burst 1) Cover or Blindness
*Darkfire +2 vs Ref (Ranged 10); Combat Advantage, Stealth Suppression
*See Racial
Daily:
Hunter’s Bear Trap +21 vs AC; 2d8+12; Slowed; Ongoing 5; [Miss] ½ dmg, Slowed
Blade Cascade +21/+20 vs AC; 2d8+12/2d8+10; Alternate attacks until you miss
Attacks on the Run: 2 attacks + move; 3d8+12; [Miss] ½ dmg
Slasher’s Mark: 2 attacks (different targets); 3d8+12/2d8+10; Healing Surge prior to attacks; Hit marks targets
Utility:
Unbalancing Parry (Immediate Reaction - Encounter) Slide Enemy & Combat Advantage
Evade Ambush (3 party members avoid surprise) Daily
Weave Through the Fray (Immediate Reaction – Encounter) Shift 3 from enemy
Longstrider (stance - daily) +2 speed
Momentary Respite (daily) shift 3; make save & remove marks
EQUIPMENT: Standard Adventurer's Kit, Mithral Chainshirt Armor +4,
Twinkle (magic +5), Icingdeath (demonslayer +4), Unicorn Necklace (Protection +5)
DEMONSLAYER WEAPON---Level 10+
The bane of demonkind.
Lvl 10 +2 5,000 gp------Lvl 25 +5 625,000 gp
Lvl 15 +3 25,000 gp-----Lvl 30 +6 3,125,000 gp
Lvl 20 +4 125,000 gp
Weapon: Any
Enhancement: Attack rolls and damage rolls
Critical: +1d8 damage per plus, or +1d12 frost damage per plus against demons
Property: This weapon provides resistance against fire attacks, as shown below.
Level 10: Resist 5
Level 15 or 20: Resist 10
Level 25 or 30: Resist 15
Power (Daily): Minor Action. Your next attack with this weapon against a demon, if made before the end of your turn, gains a +5 power bonus to the attack roll and automatically ignores any resistance the demon has.
MITHRAL CHAINSHIRT ARMOR ---Level 15+
Dwarven craftsmen made this gleaming chain shirt light and easy to wear.
Lvl 15 +3 25,000 gp Lvl 25 +5 625,000 gp
Lvl 20 +4 125,000 gp Lvl 30 +6 3,125,000 gp
Armor: Forgemail
Enhancement: AC
Property: Counts as light armor and functions with either the Hide or Chainmail proficiency. Check Penalty reduced by 1. Speed Penalty reduced by 1.
^ Did you *read* The Crystal Shard? Icingdeath one-shotted a balor...while Drizzt was semiconscious. It loathes demons and is astonishingly potent against them.
-Artistic license of the Frost power in the blade. Icingdeath is a +3 Frost Scimitar.
Oh my, the all too familiar Icingdeath debate (part of the larger Drizzt editions debate) again begginning to stir.To clear this one up I will refrain from the greater explanations of how characters like Drizzt(and their associated items) have been changed through the ages. Rather I will leave you an Excerpt from the 1979 edition of the Dungeon Masters Guide and more specifically from the Treasure(swords) section:
Sword +3, Frost Brand, +6 vs fire using/dwelling creatures, bestows the +6 bonus in a self-explanatory manner. The weapon does not shed any light, except when the air temperature is below 0 degrees farenheit, but it does give special benefits against fire, for it's wielder is proteced as if he or she is wearing a ring of fire resistance and whenever it is thrust into fires it has a 50% chance of extinguishing themn in a 10' radius - including a wall of fire but excluding a fireball, meteor swarm, or flame strike.
So as you can see it is neither that Icingdeath is good against demons(lest they be fire-using/dwelling), artistic license, a lucky critical hit or bad writing but rather simply a change in rules resulting in continuity issues. At the time of writing the Crystal Shard the said Frost Brand weapons were good against Balors but now the rules say they are not, the dichotomy is as simple as that.
Phew! That was close, unnecasary debate avoided.
To clear this one up I will refrain from the greater explanations of how characters like Drizzt(and their associated items) have been changed through the ages. Rather I will leave you an Excerpt from the 1979 edition of the Dungeon Masters Guide and more specifically from the Treasure(swords) section:
So as you can see it is neither that Icingdeath is good against demons(lest they be fire-using/dwelling), artistic license, a lucky critical hit or bad writing but rather simply a change in rules resulting in continuity issues. At the time of writing the Crystal Shard the said Frost Brand weapons were good against Balors but now the rules say they are not, the dichotomy is as simple as that.
Phew! That was close, unnecasary debate avoided.
Reading this post made me dig out my 1st edition and 2nd edition books and look at them again! And as far as logically speaking goes, a weapon that is covered in ice and that can actully deal cold damamge, should be able to put out fire, now the demon thing im not as sold on...but if Balor are "made" of fire then extra damage ho! As far as im concerned.
-Artistic license of the Frost power in the blade. Icingdeath is a +3 Frost Scimitar.
I don't think Salvatore was ever concerned with the game stats of the blade. He just made a cool magic sword and other people came behind him and tried to lock down it's stats.
Besides... Icingdeath has never done frost damage or frozen its enemies except against demons...
I don't think Salvatore was ever concerned with the game stats of the blade. He just made a cool magic sword and other people came behind him and tried to lock down it's stats.
Besides... Icingdeath has never done frost damage or frozen its enemies except against demons...
-Of course. Authors are allowed to use whatever poetic license in their literature...It's their literature. That said, Icingdeath is a +3 Frost Scimitar, officially.
I don't think Salvatore was ever concerned with the game stats of the blade. He just made a cool magic sword and other people came behind him and tried to lock down it's stats.
Besides... Icingdeath has never done frost damage or frozen its enemies except against demons...
I don't think Salvatore is conserned with game stats period. And that's cool you shouldn't restrain your work because you have foaming-from-their-mouths-fans asking/telling/making stats...
I don't think Salvatore is conserned with game stats period.
That is very much the impression of him that I've gotten.
And that's cool you shouldn't restrain your work because you have foaming-from-their-mouths-fans asking/telling/making stats...
-Well, not really. There's the sandbox analogy. The Forgotten Realms are everyone's (authors/designers) sandbox. You can play, but be nice to everyone else playing. Ignoring lore/stats/etc. doesn't exactly...lend well to that concept.
-Well, not really. There's the sandbox analogy. The Forgotten Realms are everyone's (authors/designers) sandbox. You can play, but be nice to everyone else playing. Ignoring lore/stats/etc. doesn't exactly...lend well to that concept.
That's why I said "foaming-from-their-mouths-fans" I mean there's stuff that shouldn't be ignored "like the clerics need gos for spells" and so on but mechanically speaking I think there should be no restrains like:
Well that sword can't be Dragonbane Holy,dancing vorpal cuz it like a +12 and by the rules it can't be more that 10 and even then it must have at least a enchantment of +1 blah blah blah
That's why I said "foaming-from-their-mouths-fans" I mean there's stuff that shouldn't be ignored "like the clerics need gos for spells" and so on but mechanically speaking I think there should be no restrains like:
Well that sword can't be Dragonbane Holy,dancing vorpal cuz it like a +12 and by the rules it can't be more that 10 and even then it must have at least a enchantment of +1 blah blah blah
-Both are examples of rules! :P
-The rules state that Clerics need..., and they also state the properties of magical weapons.
-Both are examples of rules! :P
-The rules state that Clerics need..., and they also state the properties of magical weapons.
Well, forgive the loss of my military bearing when I go
But you know what I mean tho
Try out as many outfits as you can and see which one fits best. Don't let the fashion of the day dictate your campaign or character. But do dress properly whilst among polite society lest they give you a stern dressing down...so to speak.
Please excuse my metaphorical mood....
...and my alliterative apology.
@Traycor : Nice writeup, I like the sword, but the armor is kinda broken since it gives +9 to AC instead of +4 like a normal hide armor. It´s just to much, I would suggest to add a chainshirt as new armor and give it the same stats as a hide armor. I know the wears chain in the books, but in this version of D&D it´s just way more powerfull to count as light armor. If you look at the level 20 version - he can hardly hit himself - thats a pretty good sign that something is not really ok. But other than that great writeup.
Point taken on the armor. I'm not looking at the rules right now, but I seem to remember glancing through and figuring out that I wasn't giving Drizzt that much of a boost over the amount of AC he could normally have with magical hide (I could be completely wrong through).
If it is an inappropriate amount of armor, the plus on the mithral could be lowered to +3. On the flip side though, with his high dex and two weapon defense, he is built for defense. I would fully expect for a character with a build that is weighted towards defense to be a little high on the AC scale. Usually a two weapon ranger would have lots of points in Str by lvl 20, so they would be hitting far more often than lvl 20 Drizzt, but wouldn't be nearly so high on the AC.
Basically he has a little more staying power on the front lines than a typical ranger of his lvl, which feels appropriate for the character.