Trance: Rather than sleep, drow enter a meditative state known as trance. You need to spend 4 hours in this state to gain the same benefits other races gain from taking a 6-hour extended rest. While in a trance, you are fully aware of your surroundings and notice approaching enemies and other events as normal.
I think it supposed to represent the reverie elves had in past editions. They never really slept.
That's right. If you check the 3rd Ed PHB you'll find that Elves had the trance ability in there.
It has nothing to do with Warforged... Who I would presume could do without sleep entirely being as they are constructs.
In 4e, the Eladrin and Drow have Trance, as you quoted, though the new Elf doesn't. In 3e, all Elf subraces did it as well; this was in the Physical Description in the PHB racial write-up. I don't know about older editions, but I guess they had pretty much the same thing as well.
but from reading the novels I've never noticed Drizzt having this ability before:
when does Drizzt ever sleep... he always says he doesn't need it, (usually on horseback or something like that)
when does Drizzt ever sleep... he always says he doesn't need it, (usually on horseback or something like that)
In the Hunter's Blade Trilogy he goes into the trance, and in the Dark Elf Trilogy, he sleeps normaly.
I sense a loophole!:P
And yes, I haven't read the Hunter's Blade books. I got a bit tired of reading the same story again and again ;)
Fluff would have you believe that elves can sleep, when they're very very tired or when they feel like it... But the reasoning behind elven resistance to sleep spells and effects is that they don't actually sleep...
I got a bit tired of reading the same story again and again
That makes me feel not so alone, cause I've stoped to read this neverending one man superherofighting against uncountable enemies and never do something wrong or little bit bad long ago. It was a bit like a whitewashed thing of ->
But about sleeping Drizzt? Hm, I am not sure but I think in the early novels with him, when he was still in the Underdark he was also in reverie or something like that and then he lost his drow abilities when he came to the surface. Could this be? It was something in the older editions, that drow would lose their special things when they were exposed to the sun, or so.
Given the audience at which 4E is aimed at, how long will it take till it is nick-named "Dream Trance"? :D
And then druids can have the Emerald Dream, where they hibernate for centuries peacefully until a malevolent raven god tries to take it over and kill all the druids...
Err, wrong game.
(Says she as she flys about doing quests for her Epic Flight Form in WoW.)Elves have always had reverie, at least back to second edition (Complete Book of Elves). As for the drow, it was never canon that they enter into reverie. I thought that that was one of the things they lost when they were turned into Drow.
Nay, they have kept reverie too and that has been "made canon" several times in the WotSQ series and other books.
Drizzt and Zaknafein are both described in terms that suggest that they are sleeping in the Dark Elf trilogy.
Thanks everyone
And yes, I haven't read the Hunter's Blade books. I got a bit tired of reading the same story again and again ;)
You mean "Opening Chapters" "Angst" "Kill armies of mobs" "Angst" (Possibly repeated a few more times with 'kill armies of mobs, and more angst")?
Yknow, after awhile I started liking Wulfgar as a primary char. He went through the most conflict, and his character shields took more than a few hits, as opposed to nigh-invulnerable Drow Ranger-dude. Taken to Hell. Tortured. Returns, gets angry at his Drow buddy for making moves on his former fiancee, loses his hammer, nearly loses his mind, eventually gets his crap together again. Much more character development than Driz.
Yknow, after awhile I started liking Wulfgar as a primary char. He went through the most conflict, and his character shields took more than a few hits, as opposed to nigh-invulnerable Drow Ranger-dude. Taken to Hell. Tortured. Returns, gets angry at his Drow buddy for making moves on his former fiancee, loses his hammer, nearly loses his mind, eventually gets his crap together again. Much more character development than Driz.
wulfgar was intended to be the main character at first. (see what sales do)
As long as they don't make FR Drow bow their heads to a Male and a Scorpion on top of it. It matters little to me.
Only in Aer... I mean Maz... ummm... Hep...
CHULT! Thats it... yeah... Chult...
Only in Aer... I mean Maz... ummm... Hep...
CHULT! Thats it... yeah... Chult...
Chult? Time to break out FRM1
When we (briefly) were working on Maztica in the Re-Dux thread, I had developed a storyline concerning Scorpion-worshipping Drow there, but it turned out it was really Tiamet pulling the strings (she created the Scorpionman in RW mythology, so I applied that to FR's Tlincallis in a round-about way).
And thats why the Scorpionmen have pointed ears - they are a similar creation to the Driders. ;)
Maztica
Al-Qadim
Horde
Red Steel
Kara-Tur
I'm been still waiting to see what is on the other side of Oerth.
There was six offical Torillian Settings though - the one you missed was Malatra; part of the 'Living Jungle' Campaign by the RPGA.
About the RPGA, sorry useless and I don't even count it for anything. Maybe if it was supported more than maybe. As it is.. no thank you.
But don't worry... it didn't last very long. ;)
Anyhow - interesting about how you used Red Steel; I used it in FR myself, but as the Coast of Anchorme in the future (I set the campaign ahead a hundred years, so I guess I thought of the Spellplague first :P ). I turned the map sideways and everything worked out.
Maztica had a (canon) magical substance called Micha, and what I did was turn Micha into the southern name for Cinnabryl (sp?), and worked it into FR canon like that. Basically an all-purpose dust with magical-enhancing properties but also very corruptive (both physically and spiritually).
I had lots of fun creating that campaign, but unfortunately I couldn't keep the players interested enough.
I was going for an 'Old West' meets 'High Fantasy' thing, but I guess I just couldn't pull it off.
Since the players like the Sword Coast I just used it there.
Plus I still have a set of those boxes (with the Audio CDs) still in plastic.
Yknow, after awhile I started liking Wulfgar as a primary char. He went through the most conflict, and his character shields took more than a few hits, as opposed to nigh-invulnerable Drow Ranger-dude. Taken to Hell. Tortured. Returns, gets angry at his Drow buddy for making moves on his former fiancee, loses his hammer, nearly loses his mind, eventually gets his crap together again. Much more character development than Driz.
What a shame he was pulled in so many different directions though, as a character. In the later books he struck me as inconsistent.
Whatever, I lost interest in the whole group awhile ago, and if Drizzt no longer has "the Companions" to hang-out with in 4e, I can pretty much gaurantee I've read my last Drizzt book.
Come to think of it, I still haven't read The Orc King, nor do I have any interest to, so I suppose RAS has already lost me as a reader. I think Drizzt's "days in the sun" are over, both figuratively and literally. ;)
Plus I still have a set of those boxes (with the Audio CDs) still in plastic.
So do I.
I opened one, I think, but that was it.
-For information on Elves, and on Elven Reverie, please check out Elves of Faerûn.
Shameless plug!!!
Shameless plug!!!
-Relevant plug, shameless though it may be. ;)
-I mean, it's not like I write all of that just to horde it for myself.
-For information on Elves, and on Elven Reverie, please check out Elves of Faerûn.
Well I would, but I have trouble working out what's canon and not canon (nothing against fan-made stuff. But I'd rather know I'm reading fan created stuff rather then canon). I'm more inclined to go with a canon answer (although I won't always) rather then my own if one is available. However if its a fan answer, I'll weigh it evenly with my own answer.
I think Drizzt's "days in the sun" are over, both figuratively and literally. ;)
I think RAS may have lost some of his passion for the character, which after writing him for so long is understandable. The last book I tried to read was the Thousand Orcs. It felt very "phoned in".
I think RAS may have lost some of his passion for the character, which after writing him for so long is understandable. The last book I tried to read was the Thousand Orcs. It felt very "phoned in".
I made it two the Two Swords book (but meh...) actually I was thinking that Drizzt could now be a dark elf, he just still thinks of himself as a Drow. After all he doesn't really hang with a lot of other "good" drow, and he has adapted to surface life, so he may just have never gotten the memo that he is no longer a drow.
-I mean, it's not like I write all of that just to horde it for myself.
Actually, I covered the Drow and their Reverie in my section. ;)
I left it open, since there are instances of both 'sleeping' Drow and ones that still use reverie. Most of the 'new generation' sleep as do humans - they have fallen so far from their Elven heritage that they are finally losing this ability as well.
I assume by the time period of 4e, nearly all will have lost the ability to enter Reverie.
Well I would, but I have trouble working out what's canon and not canon (nothing against fan-made stuff. But I'd rather know I'm reading fan created stuff rather then canon). I'm more inclined to go with a canon answer (although I won't always) rather then my own if one is available. However if its a fan answer, I'll weigh it evenly with my own answer.
-85% of Elves of Faerûn is canon. The extra 15% exists to "fill the gaps" in areas that need elaboration, but no (or not enough) information exists on them.
I concur - Wulfgar became rather confusing; especially after he dumped that barmaid and became re-interested in Cattie-Brie. Its like RAS didn't know what to do with him, or perhaps fan-mail wanted to see him back with cattie (instead of Drizzt).
Yes, that whole plot annoyed me.
Come to think of it, I still haven't read The Orc King, nor do I have any interest to, so I suppose RAS has already lost me as a reader. I think Drizzt's "days in the sun" are over, both figuratively and literally. ;)
I don't know if you'd even like the book. It does even more of the "pulling Wulfgar around", at any rate.
Yes, that whole plot annoyed me.
I want to thank you for bringing this back up...
I've decided that Delly Curtie has become a powerful banshee haunting the North.
She died so... tragically... that she really needs to be given a little more respect (I feel) in-game then RAS gave her in-novel.
I was just so... SICKENED.. by what RAS did to her that I found it difficult to follow the Drizzt/Companions storyline after that.
I wish I could talk to RAS the way we can the other authors over at CK - I would love for him to explain to me what, exactly, was going on there.
-She was Wulfgar's wife, who he just kinda left, and then she was randomly murdered, to conveniently get rid of her. Or something like that. Right?
Yes.
He could have just as easily had her become less attached to Wulfgar (being that he was never 'there' for her), and fallen in love with some soldier, and left with him.
But nooooo... he had to leave her face-down in the MUD!!! :headexplo
And the bizarre thing is she was introduced in the first of his novels to receive critical aclaim - that book brought him into the mainstream because of its realistic portrayal of fantasy characters.
Then he kills her and returns to Hack'N'Slash.
WTF?
