Elturgard Conspiracy Theory

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#1

marius4

Aug 22, 2008 0:51:53
I love the creepy, mysterious hook idea of Fort Morninglord (FRCG 125). It's actually a good example of the "give just enough info & then stop" concept where it works well.

Does anyone else see a potential connection between:
  • the Companion sun,
  • Fort Morninglord,
  • the High Observer's interdiction, and
  • the absence (sort of)* of Lathander?

[indent]*Yes, I know about Amaunator.[/indent]
The already terrifying possibilities of the strange keep exploded to epic levels when I considered this conspiracy theory of sorts. Does anyone else find this creepy and/or think it might make for a good storyline?

Gotta run. Uluvathae!
#2

aseran

Aug 22, 2008 0:57:18
Man, it's a new-formed state of Paladins that used to be a righteous city of Paladins that might, maybe, just a smidge be getting a little too righteous.

If there wasn't something sinister going on, I'd be really disappointed!

Remember that bit under the Binders in the 3.5 Tome of Magic concerning the "shadow behind the altar" or whatever they called it? There was speculation then that that was Amaunator, but now Amaunator's back, and all seems good and shiny for all intents and purposes.

Only hell freakin' no, this is adventure fodder, gentlemen.

(s' something I like about the new FR. Never short on something to play with, and all the grand old lurking horrors? Still good to go.)
#3

lord_karsus

Aug 23, 2008 20:33:38
-I will say that it is weird that Amaunator's "Sun" is there.
#4

merrikcale

Aug 23, 2008 21:04:15
-I will say that it is weird that Amaunator's "Sun" is there.

I agree. It does make more sense as an Amauntoran realm really
#5

marius4

Aug 23, 2008 21:07:46
Man, it's a new-formed state of Paladins that used to be a righteous city of Paladins that might, maybe, just a smidge be getting a little too righteous.

If there wasn't something sinister going on, I'd be really disappointed!

Remember that bit under the Binders in the 3.5 Tome of Magic concerning the "shadow behind the altar" or whatever they called it? There was speculation then that that was Amaunator, but now Amaunator's back, and all seems good and shiny for all intents and purposes.

Only hell freakin' no, this is adventure fodder, gentlemen.

Haha...love that last line there! The "shadow behind the altar" thing sounds vaguely familiar...what're the details on that?
-I will say that it is weird that Amaunator's "Sun" is there.

What I was thinking was, what if Lathander is being held prisoner in the keep?! Ahhhhh!! A bit far-fetched, but wouldn't that make for an awesome twist?!
#6

SoulCatcher78

Aug 23, 2008 21:13:15
-I will say that it is weird that Amaunator's "Sun" is there.

It's just begging to be stolen or extinguished. Who's up for making the oh so secure populace panic a bit? This sounds like a job for Xxiphu (in all of it's wanna be Cthulu action) since it's a free range citadel of ancient evil whoop*****.
#7

lord_karsus

Aug 23, 2008 21:29:24
I agree. It does make more sense as an Amauntoran realm really

-Right. I wonder what drove the heretic Lathanderites/Amaunatorians out, and the Tormish in...
#8

JohnLynch

Aug 24, 2008 7:46:50
HA! I was just about to ask if anyone had any information on Elturgard because I was thinking that perhaps the Fort Morninglord paladins learned something of the nature of the Companion Sun and couldn't live with the revelation and so killed themselves. Having said that, I'm not really sure what they could have learned about the sun that would have been so terrible.

Any idea when the sun appeared? Was it before the spellplague?
#9

lord_karsus

Aug 24, 2008 11:12:26
Any idea when the sun appeared? Was it before the spellplague?

-Yes. It was created in 1374 DR, by a sect of heretic Lathanderites who believed in the Risen Sun Heresy. Amaunator's Eternal Sun was created by an Epic Spell by Sunlord Daelegoth Orndeir, and was, to these heretics, the final sign of Amaunator's impending arrival.
#10

18DELTA

Aug 24, 2008 12:04:09
-Yes. It was created in 1374 DR, by a sect of heretic Lathanderites who believed in the Risen Sun Heresy. Amaunator's Eternal Sun was created by an Epic Spell by Sunlord Daelegoth Orndeir, and was, to these heretics, the final sign of Amaunator's impending arrival.

-That did sound familiar. Now I know why! :D


18DELTA ;)
#11

marius4

Aug 24, 2008 12:07:40
HA! I was just about to ask if anyone had any information on Elturgard because I was thinking that perhaps the Fort Morninglord paladins learned something of the nature of the Companion Sun and couldn't live with the revelation and so killed themselves. Having said that, I'm not really sure what they could have learned about the sun that would have been so terrible.

Well, officially I don't know either what they might have learned (or if anything was learned at all), but that's sort of the reason I started this thread. Does anyone have an opinion on the thought/ adventure/ storyline of Lathander being held prisoner in the fort, specifically? His essence being used to power the Companion sun, Amaunator engineering this self-righteously or perhaps being duped into it, taking Lathander's place in the pantheon, having the hard work of keeping Lathander imprisoned done by a city of Tormish who are none the wiser?
Any idea when the sun appeared? Was it before the spellplague?

-Yes. It was created in 1374 DR, by a sect of heretic Lathanderites who believed in the Risen Sun Heresy. Amaunator's Eternal Sun was created by an Epic Spell by Sunlord Daelegoth Orndeir, and was, to these heretics, the final sign of Amaunator's impending arrival.

Wow, where did you get that? That could give the idea even more meat.
#12

lord_karsus

Aug 24, 2008 12:11:49
Wow, where did you get that? That could give the idea even more meat.

-It's detailed at length in Power of Faerûn, and gets a blurb in AGHotR.
#13

marius4

Aug 24, 2008 12:14:50
-It's detailed at length in Power of Faerûn, and gets a blurb in AGHotR.

Are they actually referred to as heretics? Cause if, in fact, there is NOT a conspiracy then it seems they were right.
#14

Thunaer

Aug 24, 2008 13:07:43
This is the kind of thing I love about what they are doing with the setting now, it give just enough to get your imagination going.

Is Lathander being held somewhere Deeeep within the keep?
If he is, then is Amaunator keeping him there or knows of his existance or is he really even Amaunator. With the return of Netheril I have half a mind to have Jergal try to regain what was his.
#15

lord_karsus

Aug 24, 2008 18:46:30
Are they actually referred to as heretics?

-Yes, yes they are. By the rest of the Church of Lathander.