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Elven archmages

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#1
michael_lightbringer
Jun 04, 2008 0:04:21 I'm writing some dialogue for a mod for Baldur's Gate II. I need to reference the archmages of Suldanesselar. I can't recall with perfect clarity what elven archmages are called. Is it High Mage? Something else?
#2
valgard
Jun 04, 2008 2:17:40
I'm writing some dialogue for a mod for Baldur's Gate II. I need to reference the archmages of Suldanesselar. I can't recall with perfect clarity what elven archmages are called. Is it High Mage? Something else?

Elven High Mages practice Elven High Magic. :D
#3
michael_lightbringer
Jun 04, 2008 2:28:13 I thought it was High Mage. Thanks. Now my baelnorn's dialogue will be spot on accurate for FR lore.
#4
ikki
Jun 04, 2008 5:16:12 depends.. high mages practice a very specific type of magic... like building cities, summoning(or creating) thousands of ents, making a thousand magical blades or elven elvan chainmail, turning every dusk elf into drow.. killing winds that wipe out whole "states", and the like. They also never do this alone, but in groups of 3 and more.. sometimes hundreds.
Also, when doing their magic.. sticking your head up a dragon getting ready to breath fire is safer than baing in the midst of those castings or trying to interrupt them. Insanity is in a sense a blessing ;)
#5
ikki
Jun 04, 2008 5:18:46 http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/downloads
"Cormanthyr", more specifically the High Magic chapter, should you be intrested in details.
#6
lord_karsus
Jun 04, 2008 11:15:55 -It'd be Archmagi, not Archmages.

-Anyway, Elves who can wield Elven High Magic are known in Common as Elven High Magi, and in Elven, as Selu'Taar (High Casters). Mages who are powerful, but do not use Elven High Magic are not Selu'Taar, but are instead powerful magicians with no specific monkier. More information about Elven Selu'Taar can be found in Elves of Faerûn.
#7
merrikcale
Jun 08, 2008 21:39:11
More information about Elven Selu'Taar can be found in Elves of Faerûn.

what?
#8
runestar
Jun 08, 2008 22:08:26
depends.. high mages practice a very specific type of magic... like building cities, summoning(or creating) thousands of ents, making a thousand magical blades or elven elvan chainmail, turning every dusk elf into drow.. killing winds that wipe out whole "states", and the like. They also never do this alone, but in groups of 3 and more.. sometimes hundreds.
Also, when doing their magic.. sticking your head up a dragon getting ready to breath fire is safer than baing in the midst of those castings or trying to interrupt them. Insanity is in a sense a blessing ;)

I would say that in dnd terms, their epic spells tend to take the form of rituals with long casting times and multiple participants to lower the final spellcraft dc. Pretty much how any epic wizard worth his salt would have done it.:D
#9
malchia
Jun 08, 2008 22:09:16
-It'd be Archmagi, not Archmages.

That is a bit of a misnomer.
Magi is the plural of magus , a Zoroastrian priest.
Mage on the other hand is a shortening of magician.
In context they blur together since both can mean a sorcerer or wizard.

I suppose that the correct pluralization would be Archmagicians.
But that just sounds less appealing heh.
#10
ikki
Jun 09, 2008 8:43:47
I would say that in dnd terms, their epic spells tend to take the form of rituals with long casting times and multiple participants to lower the final spellcraft dc. Pretty much how any epic wizard worth his salt would have done it.:D

The two are comparable to the act of building a wooden house in a forest.

N'Tel'Quessir chops down the trees, turns them into logs & 3/4:s and builds it.
Tel'Quessir otoh would shape the trees there already into a house.
#11
lord_karsus
Jun 09, 2008 10:24:13
what?

-I don't know. It was like some kind of entity...possessed me for a brief moment, or something.

That is a bit of a misnomer.
Magi is the plural of magus , a Zoroastrian priest.
Mage on the other hand is a shortening of magician.
In context they blur together since both can mean a sorcerer or wizard.

I suppose that the correct pluralization would be Archmagicians.
But that just sounds less appealing heh.

-Regardless, in the Realms, the precident refers to them as Archmagi, so...;)

-Magus has become another term for magician, however, so, even still.
#12
merrikcale
Jun 10, 2008 22:06:55
-I don't know. It was like some kind of entity...possessed me for a brief moment, or something.

ah.
#13
lord_karsus
Jun 10, 2008 22:17:01 -Seems to happen to me, from time to time. Especially when someone is asking for information about Elves.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 michael_lightbringer Jun 04, 2008 0:04:21	I'm writing some dialogue for a mod for Baldur's Gate II. I need to reference the archmages of Suldanesselar. I can't recall with perfect clarity what elven archmages are called. Is it High Mage? Something else?
#2 valgard Jun 04, 2008 2:17:40	I'm writing some dialogue for a mod for Baldur's Gate II. I need to reference the archmages of Suldanesselar. I can't recall with perfect clarity what elven archmages are called. Is it High Mage? Something else? Elven High Mages practice Elven High Magic. :D
#3 michael_lightbringer Jun 04, 2008 2:28:13	I thought it was High Mage. Thanks. Now my baelnorn's dialogue will be spot on accurate for FR lore.
#4 ikki Jun 04, 2008 5:16:12	depends.. high mages practice a very specific type of magic... like building cities, summoning(or creating) thousands of ents, making a thousand magical blades or elven elvan chainmail, turning every dusk elf into drow.. killing winds that wipe out whole "states", and the like. They also never do this alone, but in groups of 3 and more.. sometimes hundreds. Also, when doing their magic.. sticking your head up a dragon getting ready to breath fire is safer than baing in the midst of those castings or trying to interrupt them. Insanity is in a sense a blessing ;)
#5 ikki Jun 04, 2008 5:18:46	http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/downloads "Cormanthyr", more specifically the High Magic chapter, should you be intrested in details.
#6 lord_karsus Jun 04, 2008 11:15:55	-It'd be Archmagi, not Archmages. -Anyway, Elves who can wield Elven High Magic are known in Common as Elven High Magi, and in Elven, as Selu'Taar (High Casters). Mages who are powerful, but do not use Elven High Magic are not Selu'Taar, but are instead powerful magicians with no specific monkier. More information about Elven Selu'Taar can be found in Elves of Faerûn.
#7 merrikcale Jun 08, 2008 21:39:11	More information about Elven Selu'Taar can be found in Elves of Faerûn. what?
#8 runestar Jun 08, 2008 22:08:26	depends.. high mages practice a very specific type of magic... like building cities, summoning(or creating) thousands of ents, making a thousand magical blades or elven elvan chainmail, turning every dusk elf into drow.. killing winds that wipe out whole "states", and the like. They also never do this alone, but in groups of 3 and more.. sometimes hundreds. Also, when doing their magic.. sticking your head up a dragon getting ready to breath fire is safer than baing in the midst of those castings or trying to interrupt them. Insanity is in a sense a blessing ;) I would say that in dnd terms, their epic spells tend to take the form of rituals with long casting times and multiple participants to lower the final spellcraft dc. Pretty much how any epic wizard worth his salt would have done it.:D
#9 malchia Jun 08, 2008 22:09:16	-It'd be Archmagi, not Archmages. That is a bit of a misnomer. Magi is the plural of magus , a Zoroastrian priest. Mage on the other hand is a shortening of magician. In context they blur together since both can mean a sorcerer or wizard. I suppose that the correct pluralization would be Archmagicians. But that just sounds less appealing heh.
#10 ikki Jun 09, 2008 8:43:47	I would say that in dnd terms, their epic spells tend to take the form of rituals with long casting times and multiple participants to lower the final spellcraft dc. Pretty much how any epic wizard worth his salt would have done it.:D The two are comparable to the act of building a wooden house in a forest. N'Tel'Quessir chops down the trees, turns them into logs & 3/4:s and builds it. Tel'Quessir otoh would shape the trees there already into a house.
#11 lord_karsus Jun 09, 2008 10:24:13	what? -I don't know. It was like some kind of entity...possessed me for a brief moment, or something. That is a bit of a misnomer. Magi is the plural of magus , a Zoroastrian priest. Mage on the other hand is a shortening of magician. In context they blur together since both can mean a sorcerer or wizard. I suppose that the correct pluralization would be Archmagicians. But that just sounds less appealing heh. -Regardless, in the Realms, the precident refers to them as Archmagi, so...;) -Magus has become another term for magician, however, so, even still.
#12 merrikcale Jun 10, 2008 22:06:55	-I don't know. It was like some kind of entity...possessed me for a brief moment, or something. ah.
#13 lord_karsus Jun 10, 2008 22:17:01	-Seems to happen to me, from time to time. Especially when someone is asking for information about Elves.