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#1 tulkas- Oct 17, 2008 10:41:28	So i ve been searching for a while to find maps of some of the greatest cities and sites (such as westgate ,calimsan , akanul e.t.c) and i wanted to know if there is a source where i can find only 4th edition maps , cause the only ones i ve found already doesnt say much.... I repeat that i m only interested to know about 4th edition maps of FR! thx in advance mates
#2 lord_karsus Oct 17, 2008 10:43:01	-The things in the FRCG, FRPG, the adventure, Living Forgotten Realms modules, and DDI/Online DUNGEON/DRAGON magazines are all that there is.
#3 tulkas- Oct 17, 2008 11:04:56	-The things in the FRCG, FRPG, the adventure, Living Forgotten Realms modules, and DDI/Online DUNGEON/DRAGON magazines are all that there is. Thanks LK i guess will have to wait some time for more updates huh??
#4 lord_karsus Oct 17, 2008 11:14:12	-You'll have to wait for more stuff on DRAGON/DUNGEON/DDI, yeah. That's where most of the information is going to come from now. The Living Forgotten Realms stuff, you'd have to be a member to get those modules, and I don't know if they have maps (though, in all likelihood, they do).
#5 markustay63 Oct 17, 2008 14:09:23	I have a really nice Map of Returned Abeir - quite lovely, if I do say so myself... I think I'll erase that file now...
#6 JudgeDookie Oct 18, 2008 15:16:54	:evillaugh
#7 sfdragon Oct 19, 2008 4:35:40	I have a really nice Map of Returned Abeir - quite lovely, if I do say so myself... I think I'll erase that file now... yeah you go do that, what ever floats your boat man.
#8 lord_karsus Oct 20, 2008 11:55:20	-I think it's his way at "getting back at the man".
#9 markustay63 Oct 20, 2008 17:38:06	I would erase it, if I wasn't so happy with it. I have a hard time destroying anything I've worked on. Maybe I'll just print it out and throw darts at it. :P
#10 askaval30 Oct 21, 2008 8:17:19	I would erase it, if I wasn't so happy with it. I have a hard time destroying anything I've worked on. Maybe I'll just print it out and throw darts at it. :P hey, I'll gladly take it off your hands... to, y'know... throw darts at it and such... certainly not to admire and save it for gamer posterity, oh no! :P
#11 JudgeDookie Oct 24, 2008 22:50:21	Rude. Down with your evil back hairs and such.
#12 markustay63 Oct 25, 2008 0:04:56	The ':P ' smiley indicates he was just joking, I imagine, so I take no offense. In fact, I'm starting to reconsider... I can't take all the PMs pleading on half-a-dozen sites...
#13 HobbitFan Oct 25, 2008 0:31:55	If I were a developer, I'd be embarassed by the maps in the campaign guide. Baisc map-making says that when you do a regional map you zoom in and include more detail than the world scale map. did they do this, no? They just crop the big map...not sure if this was laziness, incompetence or what. Pretty darn bad. This was one of the issues I raised when I called Wizards about this book.
#14 markustay63 Oct 25, 2008 12:29:16	They are trying to spin it as a 'feature', rather then a problem - "Hey guys - you can pretty much do whatever you want with the FRCG information, because the map is only a 'stylistic representation' of the world, and doesn't reflect the actual placements of any locales." No, I'm not kidding - that's the spiel they are handing us. Trust me, even the guys writing for 4e FR are gagging on that abomination, but they have to live with it, because some egghead actually approved that mess... ... and PAID for it... Sadly, it is usually the maps that draw fans to a setting - the more beautiful and fantastic looking, the more the setting will 'take-off' initially. Take a look at the Map of Golarion produced by Paizo; it just makes you want to jump right in and start playing. The FR map makes you want to hang yourself in the garage.
#15 JudgeDookie Oct 25, 2008 13:21:06	Very true. Also note that they have suckers, like you, doing the maps for them. :D
#16 lord_karsus Oct 25, 2008 13:42:53	Sadly, it is usually the maps that draw fans to a setting - the more beautiful and fantastic looking, the more the setting will 'take-off' initially. Take a look at the Map of Golarion produced by Paizo; it just makes you want to jump right in and start playing. -Whoa! The map itself, like the setting, I am indifferent on, but that was pretty cool, being able to zoom in and stuff.
#17 JudgeDookie Oct 25, 2008 13:46:20	Ah...the Google of FR. Where, oh, where, might there art ass be?
#18 Stigger Oct 26, 2008 3:09:16	I'm guessing you've never played with the Forgotten Realms Interactive Atlas then LK?
#19 markustay63 Oct 26, 2008 10:25:27	Yes, he has (and don't ask me how I know). Buuuut.... there is a difference between being able to do that for Free on the web, and trying to find a 15 year old program that doesn't look half as pretty. Oh... and the FRIA is rife with errors. ;) Still... a truly excellent resource that everyone was wishing would be re-released, but now there's not a snowball's chance in hell.
#20 Stigger Oct 26, 2008 11:57:31	The errors aren't that bad, and relatively minor mostly... except for the Globe function thing, which got even worse with patch 3... I just love my copy of that.
#21 entropysoda Oct 26, 2008 12:10:56	The 1st LFR adventure for Waterdeep (WATE1-1 Heirloom) includes a map of Waterdeep 4e. http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/lfrx/adventures
#22 lord_karsus Oct 26, 2008 21:57:22	I'm guessing you've never played with the Forgotten Realms Interactive Atlas then LK? -No, I have, but... Buuuut.... there is a difference between being able to do that for Free on the web, and trying to find a 15 year old program that doesn't look half as pretty. -Exactly.
#23 HobbitFan Oct 26, 2008 22:07:18	I ran my first D&D campaign in Middle-earth, using Iron Crown Enterprises Middle_earth Role-pLaying game books as source material for my campaign. MERP had a lot of great maps, detailed ones and sometimes they would have things like unlabelled cities and ruins as a spark to creativity. They could have done something like this for the Campaign Guide, detaled regional maps that show a lot of locales as springboards to adventure. But no, WOTC went with the less is more, make the fans make it up garbage.
#24 Stigger Oct 27, 2008 0:37:20	I'm still pretty fond of the FRIA myself... could have been better, a version for 3e would have undoubtedly been better, but considering the technology of the time its pretty good.
#25 gods_last_army Oct 27, 2008 4:00:17	Why do you guys want 4E maps? I thought everyone hated it. Does a new edition come out every decade or something?
#26 askaval30 Oct 27, 2008 12:39:04	The ':P ' smiley indicates he was just joking, I imagine, so I take no offense. In fact, I'm starting to reconsider... I can't take all the PMs pleading on half-a-dozen sites... No offense intended, far from it... Seems I should use "/joke" tabs next time. I was tempted to send a pleading PM, but refrained from fear you'd be annoyed by yet one more message adding itself to the flood you are no doubt receiving.