Famous Dragons.

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#1

18DELTA

Nov 03, 2008 7:57:07
-Famous Dragons of Faerun
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Forgotten Realms Dragons
The dragons of Faerûn are legion. All the dragons described below appeared in Dragon Magazine’s Wyrms of the North feature.

Daurgothoth, “The Creeping Doom”
This male black dragon has embraced undeath, and hunts the world as a dracolich. This great dragon lairs not too far from Waterdeep, and through bribes and threat of death, “employs” several agents to purchase or steal interesting items in the City of Splendors to continue building his hoard.

Hoondarrh, “The Red Rage of Mintarn”
This male ancient red dragon keeps several lairs. His main one on the isle of Skadaurak is a vast complex of subterranean rooms with easy access for a flying dragon. The dragon has a deal with the folk of Mintarn; in return for a yearly tribute, Hoondarrh won’t lay waste to Mintarn, and sometimes he even protects it.

Mornauguth, “The Moor Dragon”
This female adult green dragon lairs in the Misty Forest in an area of steep-sided, breakneck wooded ravines. Rumor has it that Mornauguth is a human transformed, trapped in green dragon shape by a curse. Formerly a priestess of Shar, her reckless ambitions caught up with her.

Olothontor, “The Minstrel Wyrm”
This elder blue dragon lairs not far from Waterdeep. Olothontor loves music above all else. He is rumored to grant extravagant gifts to minstrels whose songs please him. Intruders who stumble into his lair and then play or sing won’t be attacked, so long as they furnish good music and plenty of it.

Voaraghamanthar, “The Black Death”
This elder black dragon has learned something of sorcery. It lairs in the Mere of Dead Men, a salt water swamp. Rumored to have the ability to be in two places at one time, in truth Voaraghamanthar and its clutch sibling, Waervaerendor, fool the incredulous by posing as each other as need demands. No one suspects the flitting black ghost of claws and jaws that strikes out of nowhere, that lives in black swamp waters that hide the bodies of victims soon to be dined upon, is really a team of two.
#2

runestar

Nov 03, 2008 8:06:28
Doesn't really offer anything new or insightful that dragons of faerun already gave. Heck, I think the free articles on the wotc website are way more insightful...
#3

18DELTA

Nov 03, 2008 8:14:17
-True. Yet seeing that the book will have some FR Lore no matter how small or lite that it will be made it a must buy in my eyes. Thanks WotC!

-Wasn't this Dragon: Olothontor, “The Minstrel Wyrm” This elder blue dragon lairs not far from Waterdeep. A different kinda Dragon in previous editions?


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#4

rinonalyrna_fathomlin

Nov 03, 2008 12:14:47
I'm inclined to buy this book anyway--that it has a few setting specific references in it (for Dragonlance and Greyhawk as well as the FR) hasn't influenced my decision in any way.
#5

keveras

Nov 03, 2008 13:14:20
I want stats. Stats I say! :D
There is enough lore already floating around for these dragons.
#6

Iluvrien

Nov 03, 2008 13:33:34
There is enough lore already floating around for these dragons.

Even a centuary later on in their lives?

Personally, this chromatic lot can go hang. I want my metallics back!
#7

keveras

Nov 03, 2008 13:46:48
Even a centuary later on in their lives?

Of course :P

Actually, I just wanna see how WotC handles the situation with the appropriate power level. Could be a little bit hard, considering lvl 30 for an ancient red dragon and lvl 38 for greater gods. Unless, of course, they killed off the uber-powerful ones (Tchazzar, Mauzzkyl, and so on)
#8

18DELTA

Nov 03, 2008 15:04:18
I want stats. Stats I say! :D
There is enough lore already floating around for these dragons.

-Stats you say: Frostforged Wyrm, Brown Dragon
Even a centuary later on in their lives?

Personally, this chromatic lot can go hang. I want my metallics back!

-In due time my friend, in due time.


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#9

old_sage

Nov 03, 2008 17:18:32
I'm inclined to buy this book anyway--that it has a few setting specific references in it (for Dragonlance and Greyhawk as well as the FR) hasn't influenced my decision in any way.

It'll be interesting to see whether setting-specific writers/designers are responsible for the write-ups of their respective setting-specific dragons, like the Dragon Overlords from Krynn, and the older "Wyrms of the North" dragons from Toril.
#10

runestar

Nov 03, 2008 17:47:10
I wonder how they are even going to start statting up iconics like duargototh. It was a cr50 (albeit somewhat inflated, I put it closer to cr40) back in 3e. There is no way they can justice with it using the current level cap...
#11

Iluvrien

Nov 03, 2008 18:23:46
-In due time my friend, in due time.

"due time". Due time? pffft. Due time my aunt f... uncle horace.

Personally I don't see them statting up the iconic or "defined" dragons (i.e. those who have had lore/backstories/stats) in previous editions for the same reasons that the NPCs in the FRPG and FRCG that weren't direct threats didn't have them. DM "flexibility".

If, as people like runestar, say "There is no way they can justice with it using the current level cap..." then why on earth (or even in Faerun, or whatever planet some of the story designers around here have found themselves on today) would they attempt to when they can leave the "flexibility" (and garnered insults) for the DMs actually trying to use them?
#12

18DELTA

Nov 03, 2008 23:00:04
-What level cap? 33. Go beyond it.


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#13

runestar

Nov 04, 2008 8:26:16
Personally I don't see them statting up the iconic or "defined" dragons (i.e. those who have had lore/backstories/stats) in previous editions for the same reasons that the NPCs in the FRPG and FRCG that weren't direct threats didn't have them. DM "flexibility".

Daurgothoth has actually been statted. And mind you - this was back in 3e, even before ELH was released (so the lv cap was more or less fixed at lv20, even though the FRCS had rules for exceeding that).

But that was during a time when wotc was obsessed with putting stats on everything they could lay their hands on. Times (and consequently, design goals) have changed as well.:P
#14

18DELTA

Nov 04, 2008 10:13:17
-He was also detailed in 2E, in a Dragon Magazine.


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#15

keveras

Nov 04, 2008 11:46:58
-What level cap? 33. Go beyond it.

Not lvl 33, but lvl 38, if it's true what Rich Baker said.

And you're going to get into some trouble if you have to put a dozen unique dragons within 5 levels or so, all on par with some major cosmic entities, as Orcus one is.
#16

runestar

Nov 04, 2008 17:44:53
-He was also detailed in 2E, in a Dragon Magazine.


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And in the cult of the dragon supplement as well. Basically a dracolich with wiz25 casting.
#17

wannabesuperman

Nov 05, 2008 1:03:41
This excerpt is encouraging to me, since I had feared they would ignore the powerful dragons.