We only have individual companies selling RPG material. Is it likely the new FR books will be out the same day as in USA? I'm wanting to get my hands on it ASAP.
-Sweeden is in Europe, though, so I'm sure that, if you try hard enough (and it shouldn't be that hard), you can order a copy via Amazon.com, or eBay, or whatever else, and get it shipped to you, if, for whatever reason, there aren't copies available there.
I see, thanks. I guess I'll start by mailing and asking the company I usually order gaming stuff from.
-That would probably be a good idea.
I wonder when the FR books will be available in other countries. I live in Sweden (no WotC stores here, dunno if WotC have stores of their own anyway).
We only have individual companies selling RPG material. Is it likely the new FR books will be out the same day as in USA? I'm wanting to get my hands on it ASAP.
It should, acctually. I live in Germany and the hobby store I normally go to, Wizard's Well, was selling 4e books the same day that it came out in America. And the best part of the news, They sold it in German AND English!!!!!!!! (Ya my German isn't that good...
)-In the age of globalism that we live in, I'd find it unlikely that some form of the book (Be it translated or in the original English) doesn't find it's way to "developed" countries, such as Germany, or Sweden, or Australia, and so on, via either private companies (such as organized booksellers), or via private individuals obtaining them elsewhere.
Yep. Most stores in Germany sell the books in English and German:D :D :D :D :D
-Being as that you obviously speak English, and I am assuming you speak German, do you find that the translations aren't that great? I've heard complaints that they aren't, and that people prefer the original books in English.
Not sure... I haven't looked at the German books, only the English versions, but when I look at the English books I realise alot of it wouldn't be able to be translated to German without alot of editing. Plus I have talked to Germans about D&D and they all agree it is easier to talk about D&D in English, just because there are a few things about D&D that just don't translate easily.
-Yeah, most people who I know come from non-English speaking countries seem to say the same thing.
I don't even know what they call PC or DM in the German versions...
I don't even know what they call PC or DM in the German versions...
It's "SC" for "Spielercharakter", als well as "NSC" ("Nichtspielercharakter"). The DM is called "Spielleiter" (SL) in the official D&D translation, and is known as "Meister" (which simply is master) in general RPG-language, too.
Some of the translations are pretty decent, while others are a bit strange. It's not the translator's fault, I think. Some words just don't translate easily and some don't at all - even a simple, fundamental thing as "healing surge", which would most closely be "Heilschub", which sounds a little bizarre, is pretty difficult to translate into something that sounds good and preserves the meaning.
Oh, and as far as I know, there isn't a German translation for 4th Edition yet. It's scheduled for the end of August or perhaps September. Chapien, I wonder what you have seen...
It's "SC" for "Spielercharakter", als well as "NSC" ("Nichtspielercharakter"). The DM is called "Spielleiter" (SL) in the official D&D translation, and is known as "Meister" (which simply is master) in general RPG-language, too.
Some of the translations are pretty decent, while others are a bit strange. It's not the translator's fault, I think. Some words just don't translate easily and some don't at all - even a simple, fundamental thing as "healing surge", which would most closely be "Heilschub", which sounds a little bizarre, is pretty difficult to translate into something that sounds good and preserves the meaning.
Oh, and as far as I know, there isn't a German translation for 4th Edition yet. It's scheduled for the end of August or perhaps September. Chapien, I wonder what you have seen...
Hmm... then I guess the store I go to only sells the English copies... I thought I saw the German but I guess I only saw the English version. But they do still sell 4e in Germany, just in English I guess. I must of gotten confused because I saw alot of 3.5 books in German in that same store.
-The Dungeon-Miester. That's just cool! :D
Ya, that does sound cool, but the Burgermeister (which means mayor in english) sounds even cooler!:D And I believe it would be Meister is spelt with the i after the e, the i before e rule does not apply in German.
Bundesferfassungericht
-No...The best would be the Constitution Court. I'm sure I am going to butcher it, but:
Bundesferfassungericht
Ya that sounds butchered. German isn't my first lanquege it is my second so I am not sure but it does sound butchered.
But the word Bundes is important in Germany... while America has 50 states, Germany is divided into Bundeslands... I think there are 15 of them. What is really cool is that Berlin is its own Bundesland:D
Plus, Burgermeister is cool because it sounds like Burger Master... LOL.
-I thought that Germany was divided into 'Leanders'. Isn't 'Bundes' something like 'Federal', or some such? Hence the 'Bundesstag', and the 'Bundesgrat'? Eh, this isn't the place to talk German politics. I'll go wikipedia it.
Germany's official name is the Bundes Republik Deutschland. Roughly translated it means "The German Republic Alliance". Bundes means Alliance, not federal.
You're right that there are "Länder", they're also called "Bundesländer", and they're quite similar to the US states, although they may have less own rights. I don't know the US state structure and what these states are entitled to do... I think in Germany the "Bund" is more powerful than the "Länder".
Germany has 16 "Bundesländer", by the way, and not only Berlin, but also the cities of Hamburg and Bremen form Länder of their own. It stems from the times of the Hanseatic League, I suppose.
And it's "Bundesverfassungsgericht" with a v ;) Why do you see this word as butchered? "Verfassung" is the German word for "constitution", in a physiological sense as well as in a political, while the prefix "Bundes-" just means "federal", and "Gericht" is a court... you could translate it word-by-word to "Federal Constitution Court" and it wouldn't lose any of its meaning or even sound strange
I'm a little amused that German can be such fun ;) and it really is "Meister" with "ei". Just as in Bürgermeister, you're totally right, which translated one-to-one to English would be "citizen master". And yee, it does sound like "burger", and that is a source of jokes even over here ;)
Yes, but "Bundes-" also means '"federal" in a way. Your FBI is often referred to as the "amerikanische Bundespolizei", while "Föderalismus" - which is pretty close to "federalism" - is used to describe the structure of Germany.
You're right that there are "Länder", they're also called "Bundesländer", and they're quite similar to the US states, although they may have less own rights. I don't know the US state structure and what these states are entitled to do... I think in Germany the "Bund" is more powerful than the "Länder".
Germany has 16 "Bundesländer", by the way, and not only Berlin, but also the cities of Hamburg and Bremen form Länder of their own. It stems from the times of the Hanseatic League, I suppose.
And it's "Bundesverfassungsgericht" with a v ;) Why do you see this word as butchered? "Verfassung" is the German word for "constitution", in a physiological sense as well as in a political, while the prefix "Bundes-" just means "federal", and "Gericht" is a court... you could translate it word-by-word to "Federal Constitution Court" and it wouldn't lose any of its meaning or even sound strange
I'm a little amused that German can be such fun ;) and it really is "Meister" with "ei". Just as in Bürgermeister, you're totally right, which translated one-to-one to English would be "citizen master". And yee, it does sound like "burger", and that is a source of jokes even over here ;)
Yep, I know that last comment as a fact as I witnessed it first hand. I go to an English-speaking International school, and even the Germans who go to the school find the Burgermeister thing funny;)
The only thing I wish for is that WotC would start using the metric system. Feet, inches, miles and pounds? Bah. Long live centimeters and meters! And kilograms!
English RPG books aren't translated to swedish, and even if they were I'd probably buy the english versions. As said, many terms are hard to capture the essence of when translated.
The only thing I wish for is that WotC would start using the metric system. Feet, inches, miles and pounds? Bah. Long live centimeters and meters! And kilograms!
Even so I am American, I agree. The metric system is WAY easier, and I grew up on the Imperial system, being American and all:D
Why do you see this word as butchered?
-My spelling of it was butchered. Three semesters ago, my Comparative Criminology teacher offered an A+ in the class, on the first day, to anyone who could spell it correctly, on their first try. I...didn't.
The only thing I wish for is that WotC would start using the metric system. Feet, inches, miles and pounds? Bah. Long live centimeters and meters! And kilograms!
-Never!
-In some games, though, like Star Wars, they do use the metric system. But, that's probably because Star Wars has traditionally used the metric system.