Getting Ready for FR in 5e. Where to start?

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#1

Rhone1

Aug 24, 2012 15:16:33
Hi All,


I am coming back to D&D after a number of years away from the game/brand/books.  From the looks of things the new version of the game is going to start in the Forgotten Realms.  Unfortunately for me, I haven't read anything since the War of the Spider Queen and before that all of the Time of Troubles material.


So, what source material should I check out now to get caught up on what's been happening in the FR's?  I'm open to any ideas.  Novels, hard back gamebooks are all fine.


Thanks!      
#2

sfdragon

Aug 24, 2012 15:20:08
ed greenwood presents:waterdeep
#3

LordManshoon

Aug 24, 2012 15:41:06
Well, the best source of information on the Spellplague would be the 4E Campaign Guide, but it's not the most heavily-detailed book. In case you don't know, the transition from 3E to 4E was marked by a century time-jump. Whereas the 3E Realms took place in 1374 DR, the current Realms is set in the 1480s DR.

In terms of novels, I can lay them out by subject, so you can look into whatever sounds interesting to you:
The Abolethic Sovereignty - Impiltur, Sea of Fallen Stars, Warlocks, Abolethic Sovereignty*
Blades of the Moonsea - Moonsea region (especially Hulburg), Myth Drannor, Vaasa
Brotherhood of the Griffon - Chessenta, Tchazzar, Tymanther*, Rashemen [Connected to the events of The Haunted Lands]
Chosen of Nendawen - Feywild*, Primal Spirits*, The Far North
Ed Greenwood Presents Waterdeep - Take a guess
The Empyrean Odyssey - The Spellplague*, Deicide, The Divine Homeplanes [Connected to the events of WotSQ]
The Haunted Lands - Thay, Szass Tam, Aglarond, the Zulkirs
The Lady Penitent - The Drow Pantheon, Their Respective Churches, Mass Deicide [Connected to the events of WotSQ]
Neverwinter Series - Drizzt & Company, Neverwinter [Connected to the events of the Transitions trilogy]
The Sage of Shadowdale- Cormyr, Mystra, Elminster, Manshoon
Transitions - Drizzt & Company, Luskan, The Spirit Soaring, Kingdom of Many-Arrows*
The Twilight War- Sembia, Netheril, Mask, Shar, Sembian Civil War [Connected to the events of the Erevis Cale trilogy]
The Wilds - Random dangerous locations throughout Faerun

Red = location/region
Green = Person/People/Deity/Monsters
Blue = Event

Anything marked with an * is something introduced or heavily emphasized in Fourth Edition, so you probably have never heard of any of them if you haven't read anything since WotSQ. I'll provide more information on whatever ones catch your eye, if you like. In terms of their actual quality of writing, the best of the aforementioned would have to be the Brotherhood of the Griffon, Chosen of Nendawen, Ed Greenwood Presents Waterdeep, and The Twilight War. Blades of the Moonsea is also quite good, so I would place that just a step below those fours.

#4

Rhone1

Aug 24, 2012 17:51:01
Thank you very much!  That will get me started in the right direction.  I just picked up the first book in the Waterdeep collection and I'm a quick reader, so hopefully I should have all those taken care of before 5e comes out. Laughing
#5

Mournblade94

Aug 25, 2012 2:03:55
Well, the best source of information on the Spellplague would be the 4E Campaign Guide, but it's not the most heavily-detailed book. In case you don't know, the transition from 3E to 4E was marked by a century time-jump. Whereas the 3E Realms took place in 1374 DR, the current Realms is set in the 1480s DR.

In terms of novels, I can lay them out by subject, so you can look into whatever sounds interesting to you:
The Abolethic Sovereignty - Impiltur, Sea of Fallen Stars, Warlocks, Abolethic Sovereignty*
Blades of the Moonsea - Moonsea region (especially Hulburg), Myth Drannor, Vaasa
Brotherhood of the Griffon - Chessenta, Tchazzar, Tymanther*, Rashemen [Connected to the events of The Haunted Lands]
Chosen of Nendawen - Feywild*, Primal Spirits*, The Far North
Ed Greenwood Presents Waterdeep - Take a guess
The Empyrean Odyssey - The Spellplague*, Deicide, The Divine Homeplanes [Connected to the events of WotSQ]
The Haunted Lands - Thay, Szass Tam, Aglarond, the Zulkirs
The Lady Penitent - The Drow Pantheon, Their Respective Churches, Mass Deicide [Connected to the events of WotSQ]
Neverwinter Series - Drizzt & Company, Neverwinter [Connected to the events of the Transitions trilogy]
The Sage of Shadowdale- Cormyr, Mystra, Elminster, Manshoon
Transitions - Drizzt & Company, Luskan, The Spirit Soaring, Kingdom of Many-Arrows*
The Twilight War- Sembia, Netheril, Mask, Shar, Sembian Civil War [Connected to the events of the Erevis Cale trilogy]
The Wilds - Random dangerous locations throughout Faerun

Red = location/region
Green = Person/People/Deity/Monsters
Blue = Event

Anything marked with an * is something introduced or heavily emphasized in Fourth Edition, so you probably have never heard of any of them if you haven't read anything since WotSQ. I'll provide more information on whatever ones catch your eye, if you like. In terms of their actual quality of writing, the best of the aforementioned would have to be the Brotherhood of the Griffon, Chosen of Nendawen, Ed Greenwood Presents Waterdeep, and The Twilight War. Blades of the Moonsea is also quite good, so I would place that just a step below those fours.




Thanks for this.  I have decided to start reading 4e books with the news of the sundering.  Hopefully the sundering books will resonate better.  What books were about the Tiefling?  Or at least by that author.





#6

ErinMEvans

Aug 31, 2012 23:28:25
Hi! Those would be my books.

Brimstone Angels is currently available as a paperback and as an ebook. That introduces Farideh, her pact, her devil-patron, and her family. And some villains who carry through the series. It's also set in Neverwinter, and has some small connections to the Neverwinter Saga.

The sequel, Brimstone Angels: Lesser Evils, comes out December 4th. It also features the Harpers and the Zhentarim as major elements, as well as some cool ancient history stuff. That's paperback and ebook as well. Those will lead directly into The Adversary (although I'm putting every effort into making it accessible to unfamiliar readers too).


And--if you want to read 'em all--my first book was The God Catcher, which is part of Ed GReenwood Presents Waterdeep. That is currently only available in ebook and in the second Waterdeep Omnibus (which includes City of the Dead and Circle of Skulls, too).  Last, I had a short story in Realms of the Dead that introduces Tam "the Shepherd" Zawad, my silverstar super-spy. You can read that for free (although no one's stopping you from getting the anthology) here

And I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that WotC Novels Book Club had some great discussions about both God Catcher and Brimstone Angels--and I'm fairly sure Lesser Evils will be coming up.  

Hope you enjoy your return to the Realms!  Smile [Edit: WHOOPS! Mixed up Mournblade and Rhone. The latter enjoy the return; the former, enjoy yourself some books and whatever degree of newness is appropriate.]
#7

sfdragon

Sep 01, 2012 0:01:41
there was this one book I didnt enjoy as much.....


but thats another matter.

I enjoyed Godcatcher.    
#8

LordManshoon

Sep 01, 2012 0:15:44
^ As did I. It's been ages since I read The God Catcher, but I distinctly recall enjoying it and finding it very well-written. Of course, all the books of EGPW were fantastic, but that just makes it all the more impressive as a series. Each and every book holds up well on its own.

As a side-note, Mrs. Evans, I must confess that Brimstone Angels is still sitting on my shelf, waiting to be read. It's at the top of my list, though. Once I finish Bruce Cordell's Sword of the Gods, it's on to BA.
#9

hyrsam

Sep 01, 2012 12:06:51
Brim Stone Angels is my favourite book of 4e, not that thier isn't other great books, there is,lots. I was really happy to see Erin named as one of the Sundering authors.
#10

ErinMEvans

Sep 01, 2012 17:13:36
I'm glad you both liked God Catcher. It was fun to write. And thanks, Hyrsam--I'm happy I was included.

^ As did I. It's been ages since I read The God Catcher, but I distinctly recall enjoying it and finding it very well-written. Of course, all the books of EGPW were fantastic, but that just makes it all the more impressive as a series. Each and every book holds up well on its own.



I think it turned out really fantastic--they got six different voices, but I think they're all (or at least the other five; I won't pretend I'm objective about my own) really solid examples of "Realms stories," you know? They all have the right feel, while having their own feels.

As a side-note, Mrs. Evans, I must confess that Brimstone Angels is still sitting on my shelf, waiting to be read. It's at the top of my list, though. Once I finish Bruce Cordell's Sword of the Gods, it's on to BA.



Another good book! How are you liking it? (And, hey, you have it on hand--that's halfway to read).

But, dude, "Mrs. Evans," is my grandmother. You can call me Erin.
#11

Mournblade94

Sep 06, 2012 13:50:26
Hi! Those would be my books.

Brimstone Angels is currently available as a paperback and as an ebook. That introduces Farideh, her pact, her devil-patron, and her family. And some villains who carry through the series. It's also set in Neverwinter, and has some small connections to the Neverwinter Saga.

The sequel, Brimstone Angels: Lesser Evils, comes out December 4th. It also features the Harpers and the Zhentarim as major elements, as well as some cool ancient history stuff. That's paperback and ebook as well. Those will lead directly into The Adversary (although I'm putting every effort into making it accessible to unfamiliar readers too).


And--if you want to read 'em all--my first book was The God Catcher, which is part of Ed GReenwood Presents Waterdeep. That is currently only available in ebook and in the second Waterdeep Omnibus (which includes City of the Dead and Circle of Skulls, too).  Last, I had a short story in Realms of the Dead that introduces Tam "the Shepherd" Zawad, my silverstar super-spy. You can read that for free (although no one's stopping you from getting the anthology) here

And I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that WotC Novels Book Club had some great discussions about both God Catcher and Brimstone Angels--and I'm fairly sure Lesser Evils will be coming up.  

Hope you enjoy your return to the Realms!  Smile [Edit: WHOOPS! Mixed up Mournblade and Rhone. The latter enjoy the return; the former, enjoy yourself some books and whatever degree of newness is appropriate.]



Thank you so much!

They sound great!  Thanks for that, and I look forward to reading them!



#12

LordManshoon

Sep 07, 2012 17:12:43
So I finished Sword of the Gods and was surprised by just how much I enjoyed it. Bruce has matured as a writer, and it definitely shows. My only real complaint is that towards the last seventy-five pages or so, it became clear this story wasn't going to be wrapped up in one novel, which didn't really annoy me too much, as I knew I wouldn't mind continuing the adventures of Demascus. Truth be told, I was most interested in Chant salvaging his relationship with his son.

Then I look for the sequel on Amazon, and find the sequel is e-book only...



Oh well. Maybe one day. Regardless, onwards to Brimstone Angels.

 
#13

sfdragon

Sep 07, 2012 19:40:35
The following is a joke


You want to get started somewhere in the Realms?
You can get started by scrubbing the mud of Lord Manshoon's boots.

The preceding was a joke    
#14

ErinMEvans

Sep 10, 2012 11:45:52
The following is a joke


You want to get started somewhere in the Realms?
You can get started by scrubbing the mud of Lord Manshoon's boots.

The preceding was a joke    

I chuckled. Cool
#15

shoubushi

Sep 11, 2012 10:33:16

Blades of the Moonsea - Moonsea region (especially Hulburg), Myth Drannor, Vaasa



Lord Manshoon or anybody really, could you tell me how big a part Myth Drannor plays in that series?

@ErinMEvans- I saw your book Brimstone Angels today in a US Army post exchange in Germany. I was really tempted to get it but put it back on the shelf until I could check to see how much bag space I have in my luggage so I can lug it back to my home station. Your next paycheck will be happy to know that I do indeed have the space.
#16

LordManshoon

Sep 11, 2012 11:15:27

Blades of the Moonsea - Moonsea region (especially Hulburg), Myth Drannor, Vaasa



Lord Manshoon or anybody really, could you tell me how big a part Myth Drannor plays in that series?

It plays a major role in the backstory of the main character, Geran Hulmaster, because his time spent there and subsequent departure help provide the major framework for one of the novel's biggest dynamics. There are references to it throughout the series. Myth Drannor also plays a significant role in the third book, Avenger, and yes, certain characters do visit there, in order to retrieve something important.

Baker also reintroduces a couple familiar faces in Myth Drannor, so if you have read his Last Mythal stuff, it will be nice to see them.

#17

shoubushi

Sep 11, 2012 12:08:18
Gotcha, thanks a bunch!
#18

ErinMEvans

Sep 12, 2012 8:43:16

Blades of the Moonsea - Moonsea region (especially Hulburg), Myth Drannor, Vaasa



Lord Manshoon or anybody really, could you tell me how big a part Myth Drannor plays in that series?

@ErinMEvans- I saw your book Brimstone Angels today in a US Army post exchange in Germany. I was really tempted to get it but put it back on the shelf until I could check to see how much bag space I have in my luggage so I can lug it back to my home station. Your next paycheck will be happy to know that I do indeed have the space.

Awesome! Hope you enjoy it!
#19

daron_haldar

Feb 28, 2013 22:17:41
Don't bother starting a campaign in Returned Abeir.   You won't have material to support it after 5e.   Not that they put out a lot to support it in 4e. 

What a waste of a great setting with a lot of potential.  
#20

Mr_Miscellany

Feb 28, 2013 23:56:06
Don't bother starting a campaign in Returned Abeir.   You won't have material to support it after 5e.

Where did you read that WotC won't be supporting Returned Abeir in 5E?

Can you provide a link?

#21

thenightgaunt

May 05, 2013 18:50:44
Don't bother starting a campaign in Returned Abeir.   You won't have material to support it after 5e.

Where did you read that WotC won't be supporting Returned Abeir in 5E?

Can you provide a link?




Hope? 
 
From the look of it the clean slate they pulled on FR was a marketing mistake (alot of unhappy fans, and a few happy ones) so anything they do to get away from it in the new edition has caught my attention. Haven't seen anything official though, unfortunately. 
#22

Stigger

May 06, 2013 4:12:49
As far as I knew, there were some pretty vehement denials that there would be a reboot/retcon in any way, shape, or form.  I suspect the best we can hope for is a massive downplaying of elements we don't like, and even then I wouldn't hold my breath too long.
#23

mvincent

May 06, 2013 19:24:22
Where did you read that WotC won't be supporting Returned Abeir in 5E?
Can you provide a link?

That's what "The Sundering" implies (i.e. the original Sundering is what separated Abeir from Toril in the first place). Also, Paul S. Kemp  said:
"To clarify based on what I heard at the “What is the Sundering” panels: That Abeir and Toril are separating does not mean that all elements of one world are gone on the other world. I believe James said specifically that Dragonborn would remain in Toril. FWIW."

However, check out "What is the Sundering" for yourself.

#24

Stigger

May 07, 2013 15:01:44
Oh yeah, that's right... I'd forgotten about that stuff.  I was trying to remember why I was vaguely looking forward to 5e...