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#1 ricodevega May 24, 2013 17:59:28	I've had someone ask me recently if, and where, there is a rule that dictates a character cannot 'lie' about their faith, except in certain circumstances. I hadn't actually heard about this rule before, but the person who asked me said they know it exists, they just can't find it or the source it came from. The reason I'm looking for this rule and its source is this DM has a PC who is a cleric of Gargauth, but is pretending instead to be a cleric of Siamorphe. They tried telling them they couldn't do this, but the player has demanded a reference to show why. I had a look in the 2002 Faiths and Pantheons book, but couldn't find anything there that said such... I suppose the real questions to answer, is can a cleric lie about their faith and not have their real god say "No, you can't have powers", with exceptions of dirty rotten liar gods like Cyric?
#2 LordManshoon May 24, 2013 19:38:50	I've had someone ask me recently if, and where, there is a rule that dictates a character cannot 'lie' about their faith, except in certain circumstances. I hadn't actually heard about this rule before, but the person who asked me said they know it exists, they just can't find it or the source it came from. The reason I'm looking for this rule and its source is this DM has a PC who is a cleric of Gargauth, but is pretending instead to be a cleric of Siamorphe. They tried telling them they couldn't do this, but the player has demanded a reference to show why. I had a look in the 2002 Faiths and Pantheons book, but couldn't find anything there that said such... I suppose the real questions to answer, is can a cleric lie about their faith and not have their real god say "No, you can't have powers", with exceptions of dirty rotten liar gods like Cyric? I'm not aware of any rule saying a cleric can't pass himself off as a cleric of another deity. Gargauth seems like the sort who would love to infiltrate other churches to undermine them, so it would make sense that he would instruct an agent of his to pose as a cleric of a less terror-inspiring deity to avoid notice. Besides, a DM can reject any rule he doesn't like (whether he should or not is a different story), so if your DM says it is fine, then it is fine.
#3 SirAntoine May 24, 2013 19:41:42	It would be an evil act, but still possible--and good deities might punish their priests for doing so.
#4 Stigger May 25, 2013 9:03:55	I seem to recall reading something in feat descriptions from either Players Guide to Faerun or Waterdeep: City of Splendors, both from 3e, that said something that could be taken that way, but from what hazy recollections of it I have that was in reference to good-aligned faiths.  It wouldn't surprise me if it was a 2e source though, there were a lot of stupid little rules like that tossed hither and dither in those days, but I never had a problem ignoring a lot of rules from 2e.
#5 The_Silversword May 26, 2013 1:27:58	There was the rule, I think it was in 2e, that anytime you said a deitys name that deity would hear you, thus becoming aware that youre pulling a sham, some gods might get angry about it, other gods may try to hold you to it.
#6 GreenKnight May 26, 2013 3:05:12	Sune fakes it all the time. *reads original post* Oh, wait, nevermind.
#7 The_Silversword May 26, 2013 14:52:01