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#1
xhazerdusx
Oct 16, 2008 22:51:42 I read somewhere else on the forums that Gondsmen were the warforged of FR. Where can I get more information on these gondsmen?

Also, if that's entirely false, how do warforged fit into FR if one of my players wanted to play one?
#2
lord_karsus
Oct 16, 2008 22:54:31 -That's not entirely true, but...Information on Gondsmen can be found in Faiths and Pantheons.
#3
xhazerdusx
Oct 16, 2008 23:00:12
-That's not entirely true, but...Information on Gondsmen can be found in Faiths and Pantheons.

I'm a bit embarassed by asking this, but what is Faiths and Pantheons? I'm new to FR with the release of the 4e material for it.
#4
lord_karsus
Oct 16, 2008 23:01:50 -Oh. It's the 3e book concerning deities. Buy it, if you can. Seriously, no joke.
#5
BadCatMan
Oct 16, 2008 23:32:02 Gondsmen were originally the specialty priests (clerics with some extras) of Gond in Faiths & Avatars, 2nd edition. That is, they were just ordinary human clerics.

In Faiths & Pantheons, 3rd edition, the Gondsman become the clockwork robot buddy of the Techsmith prestige class, which was for arcane or divine casters that worshipped Gond and were interested in gadgets and firearms and constructs.

That's not quite the same as a Warforged - the Warforged is distinctly a golem, the Gondsman a steampunk clockwork robot - but it's a popular choice for people wishing to place Warforged in FR. Other choices are generic golems and other constructs belonging to random wizards, relics of Imaskar or Raumathar, terracotta soldiers from Kara-Tur, or Basal Golems from Bloodforges in the Utter East. Search around the boards and you'll find plenty of discussion about this.

Most Gondsmen (either version) were found in Lantan, the island nation where Gond was the state religion amongst the human and gnomish populations. Regrettably, Lantan was destroyed for 4e, despite being uniquely original and almost completely undetailed.
#6
old_sage
Oct 21, 2008 19:45:15 While we're on this side-topic, I've always thought that one idea for introducing "warforged-like" constructs in the Realms could be built upon using the concept of the 'Wonderstar Garrison' in City of Splendors: Waterdeep, pgs. 120-121.
#7
rauric
Oct 21, 2008 20:06:25 I liked the idea of them being from a device that was recently found and that devices origins were tied to the Imskari of old.
#8
maulorn
Oct 22, 2008 8:38:56
I liked the idea of them being from a device that was recently found and that devices origins were tied to the Imskari of old.

Really would not be a bad idea...Imaskar...Illefarn...I think most would work...maybe they were sealed in a great armory and when the spellplague happened they were released...

To me...Maug=Warforge.
#9
davesaunders
Oct 31, 2008 11:07:45 Someone in my game wants to be a Warforged. We havent decided how this is possible. Maybe we'll use this idea.
#10
18DELTA
Oct 31, 2008 11:16:23 -Check out this thread

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Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 xhazerdusx Oct 16, 2008 22:51:42	I read somewhere else on the forums that Gondsmen were the warforged of FR. Where can I get more information on these gondsmen? Also, if that's entirely false, how do warforged fit into FR if one of my players wanted to play one?
#2 lord_karsus Oct 16, 2008 22:54:31	-That's not entirely true, but...Information on Gondsmen can be found in Faiths and Pantheons.
#3 xhazerdusx Oct 16, 2008 23:00:12	-That's not entirely true, but...Information on Gondsmen can be found in Faiths and Pantheons. I'm a bit embarassed by asking this, but what is Faiths and Pantheons? I'm new to FR with the release of the 4e material for it.
#4 lord_karsus Oct 16, 2008 23:01:50	-Oh. It's the 3e book concerning deities. Buy it, if you can. Seriously, no joke.
#5 BadCatMan Oct 16, 2008 23:32:02	Gondsmen were originally the specialty priests (clerics with some extras) of Gond in Faiths & Avatars, 2nd edition. That is, they were just ordinary human clerics. In Faiths & Pantheons, 3rd edition, the Gondsman become the clockwork robot buddy of the Techsmith prestige class, which was for arcane or divine casters that worshipped Gond and were interested in gadgets and firearms and constructs. That's not quite the same as a Warforged - the Warforged is distinctly a golem, the Gondsman a steampunk clockwork robot - but it's a popular choice for people wishing to place Warforged in FR. Other choices are generic golems and other constructs belonging to random wizards, relics of Imaskar or Raumathar, terracotta soldiers from Kara-Tur, or Basal Golems from Bloodforges in the Utter East. Search around the boards and you'll find plenty of discussion about this. Most Gondsmen (either version) were found in Lantan, the island nation where Gond was the state religion amongst the human and gnomish populations. Regrettably, Lantan was destroyed for 4e, despite being uniquely original and almost completely undetailed.
#6 old_sage Oct 21, 2008 19:45:15	While we're on this side-topic, I've always thought that one idea for introducing "warforged-like" constructs in the Realms could be built upon using the concept of the 'Wonderstar Garrison' in City of Splendors: Waterdeep, pgs. 120-121.
#7 rauric Oct 21, 2008 20:06:25	I liked the idea of them being from a device that was recently found and that devices origins were tied to the Imskari of old.
#8 maulorn Oct 22, 2008 8:38:56	I liked the idea of them being from a device that was recently found and that devices origins were tied to the Imskari of old. Really would not be a bad idea...Imaskar...Illefarn...I think most would work...maybe they were sealed in a great armory and when the spellplague happened they were released... To me...Maug=Warforge.
#9 davesaunders Oct 31, 2008 11:07:45	Someone in my game wants to be a Warforged. We havent decided how this is possible. Maybe we'll use this idea.
#10 18DELTA Oct 31, 2008 11:16:23	-Check out this thread 18DELTA