Good FR Race for arcane and divine magic?

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#1

laerius_shadowlight

Jul 07, 2008 16:59:04
Hi,

i think of trying a mixes spellcaster - Cleric (for divine spellcasting and turn undead) and sorcerer, warmage or wizard (for arcane magic). Later on I#d like to advance as Mystic Theurgist or some of the divine related arcane pestige classes. But this depends also on how the character evolves and what the group needs.

I only lack a good race for this right now - I'd imagined the following:
- Level Adjustment +1
- Bonus to two of the three: WIS, INT, CHA (preferably WIS and CHA)
- Malus two one or both of STR and CON

Does anybody know a good race for this that is also available in the FR? I until now only found Sartyr - but we already have one in our party ....

Thank you very much,
Eledriel Darkfire

PS: If anybody has other suggestions (e.g. which combination you think best of the above arcane spellcasters, good feats, ...) for this character, I'd also like to hear ...
#2

GreenKnight

Jul 07, 2008 17:00:43
Aasimar.
#3

lord_karsus

Jul 07, 2008 17:44:00
-Tiefling.
#4

the_shaman

Jul 07, 2008 17:45:52
Draconic sun elf (int) / star elf (Cha, in unapproachable east).

Is Malus the opposite of bonus?
#5

lord_karsus

Jul 07, 2008 17:47:17
Is Malus the opposite of bonus?

-Yes.
#6

Belorin

Jul 07, 2008 18:56:34
How about Genasi?

Bel
#7

laerius_shadowlight

Jul 08, 2008 11:07:12
Is Malus the opposite of bonus?

Yes. Sorry if it was the wrong word in English. How it's called officially?

Draconic sun elf (int) / star elf (Cha, in unapproachable east).

Tenplates are a very good idea I have not thought of. Any other idea of a good template?
#8

lord_karsus

Jul 09, 2008 18:59:55
Yes. Sorry if it was the wrong word in English. How it's called officially?

-No, that's right.
#9

the_shaman

Jul 09, 2008 19:58:37
Yes. Sorry if it was the wrong word in English. How it's called officially?



Tenplates are a very good idea I have not thought of. Any other idea of a good template?

Well... for a +1 draconic is pretty solid, although I'd say that depending on the class, Necropolitan (LMortis, no LA, becomes undead) can be good too. Let's see, what else...

- Deep Imaskari can be decent wizards (+2 int, -2 Dex, in Underdark)
- Mephlings can be ok as sorcerers or bards except for the LA +1 (Manual of the planes, bonuses to cha, penalty to int)
- Catfolk can be ok bards/sorcerers/warlocks (+ dex, cha, LA +1, Races of the Wild)
- Uldra can be ok for both classes (+wis, cha, - str, LA +1 , Frostburn)
- the Feytouched template from Fiend Folio gives +2 cha, -2 constitution. Frankly, it's somewhat unimpressive mechanically, and I'd rather consider the half-fey template from the same book despite the +2
- and talking about +2 templates, the Phrenicone is imo a classic if you can buy them off. + Int, + Wis, + cha, SR (PR, but the two are usually equivalent) and a bucketful of freely-scaling spell (psi-) likes for utility, defense, and kicking the metaphysical snot of anyone who gives you trouble. If you can buy off the LA, I can't recommend it enough.
#10

phelf_der_zemit

Jul 09, 2008 20:06:28
Aasimar.

I secound this one. It's you best bet for being a sorcerer and/or cleric as you get a wis and cha bonus. You can use light as a spell like ability which is handy if your looking into very decrepit dungeon fishing. Plus there is no ability hindered by the Aasimar temlate leaving you to put a few point in strength so your cleric and still swing a sword if you want him to.

Plus you just look like an angel..
#11

GreenKnight

Jul 09, 2008 20:36:32
Get the Outsider Wings Feat and you'll really look like an angel.
#12

lord_karsus

Jul 09, 2008 21:44:22
-Or shop at Victoria's Secret.
#13

GreenKnight

Jul 10, 2008 1:32:04
Or drink a Red Bull.

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#14

rinonalyrna_fathomlin

Jul 10, 2008 17:02:49
HA!
#15

xhereticx

Jul 10, 2008 17:04:04
Or drink a Red Bull.

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Monster destroys Red Bull any day.
#16

lord_karsus

Jul 10, 2008 17:42:47
-Yeah, it gives you wings...Whatever the hell that means. I never had one of those energy drink things, so...
#17

xhereticx

Jul 10, 2008 17:46:14
-Yeah, it gives you wings...Whatever the hell that means. I never had one of those energy drink things, so...

I have, they all taste the same.
#18

lord_karsus

Jul 11, 2008 21:37:13
-Another good combination would be the Shade Shadow Adept. Get all those darkness benefits and all...
#19

xhereticx

Jul 11, 2008 22:01:06
I can't believe nobody has mentioned them but, Fey'Ri (sure it's gonna be hard to fit them in, but you can think can't you?).
#20

lord_karsus

Jul 17, 2008 21:25:18
-Using rules from Unearth Arcana, you can make up a race that gives you a plus to Intelligence/Wisdom by "buying" Level Adjustments. Or something to that effect.