The campaign ended with the Church of Savras coming back to prominence and becoming a Major Southern god again.
I understand that in 4E he gets Blasted to tar, Why we dont know yet. but our DM is considering running another Halruaan campaign, That will take us onto the planes later.
The Dilemma is to keep the same timeline with no changes to 4E or to finish the next one and come back to a Blasted out campaign world. Some of Us personally dont care much for 4E. Some like me like "SOME" of the coming changes.
So in our world it would be silly for The Eyes of Savras to determine the Cause of the Great Void.. Shar. Defeat it, then come back and it happens anyway. One plan is to Impress Savras again, and have Shar or Cyric assume his identity, yet we'll recieve our powers from the Real One. Then Restore Halruaa and tashalar once again.
in the course of this Savras will begin to take on Aspects of his enemies.
This campaign goal is to free him and have another PC take his place as the God of Divinations... That's something I ran by the DM.
How do you plan to run your "Halruaa" If at all.
Why we dont know yet.
Yes we do.
Because the designers couldn't figure out anything creative to do with it.
forgive me, I don't have the FRCS but isn't halruaa completely gone?
If it blew up, then something must remain, unless it was all just swept into a void...
If it blew up, then something must remain, unless it was all just swept into a void...
well, Lurien is now a bay I believe
well, Lurien is now a bay I believe
Then the remains are probably underwater, which still leaves a few plot devices using it. Maybe a few of the motes floating throughout the realms now are not from Abeir, but are pieces of Halruaa.
Then the remains are probably underwater, which still leaves a few plot devices using it. Maybe a few of the motes floating throughout the realms now are not from Abeir, but are pieces of Halruaa.
OK
I'm thinking lots of misfiring spell effects and portals. Strange creatures, some very powerful appearing and filtering out through the realms. The survivors have taken refuge in Nimbral (if it is still there) who sent aid to their ancient motherland, as well as sending teams to recover any artifacts that could be found. Adventurer's digging through rubble to glean magic secrets from this shattered land.
I like this Idea Have Nimbral come to the Aid of Halruaan refugees.. (If we decide to Blow it up)The Pc's would have to help charter safe passage to Nimbral or vice versa.
Then the remains are probably underwater, which still leaves a few plot devices using it. Maybe a few of the motes floating throughout the realms now are not from Abeir, but are pieces of Halruaa.
Another good idea like above would be to Unite the new "Island Nation" Of New Halruaa... The Pc's would have to engage in not only exploration,recovery, But also diplomacy, negotiation, and nation building.:D
The Halruaa campaign we ran had a total of 2 mages, A Heretic Mage/Sorcerer, A Pet Beholder kin, and a Gish.
So it was primarily a Magic based, less dungeon crawling adventure.
I like the ideas so far.
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well, Lurien is now a bay I believe
-Right. The 'Bay of Lurien'. To make the Halflings river folk.
-Right. The 'Bay of Lurien'. To make the Halflings river folk.
I guess but that would seem more like ocean folk, but hey they got to forcefeed us core ideas somehow
I guess but that would seem more like ocean folk, but hey they got to forcefeed us core ideas somehow
-Well, we don't know how deep the bay is, but...Yeah.
I wish I could see the FRCG Map - I may have to buy the book just for that (otherwise, I have everything I need between all these threads and those excerpts).
What I'm picturing - and the way I plan on presenting it on MY 4e maps - is of a chain of islands. Some will be dead magic, some wild magic, some filled with Spellplague, and others portals to other worlds, and still others with crusty old ruins (some of which may have come from other worlds).
A couple of islands will be large, a bunch medium, and hundreds of tiny islets - some barely more then rocks jutting up from the bottom.
Also, the entire region will be a meteorological nightmare - Hot, sticky weather being replaced by gusts of mind-numbing (and water-freezing) cold, insane storms coming out of nowhere (bringing their own chaotic effects with them), rains of blood, fogs of shadow, etc, etc...
In other words, Hell on Earth (or Toril, in this case).
I wish I could see the FRCG Map
-Agreed.
But either way, I made some promises, so I'll do what I can.
I thought it was going to become a big old marsh... but that would have made too much sense.
I believe Halruaa is indeed a big swamp
How do you plan to run your "Halruaa" If at all.
As ruins.
You know... we may just cry.
-I'm not crying over spilled milk. I'll be cranky and aggravated, but I'm certainly not crying over it. Especially since I have my projects, and am in a campaign with a good DM and even better players.
Failure of magic in that society would cause destruction of cities even without random explosions because most cities had magically-supported architecture.
Their defenses were almost entirely magic-based, so monsters could then overrun the (helpless) population.
This would put it as a "points of light" sort of deal, or a monster-ridden area that refugees want to reclaim now that they've figured out how to fight using magic again. Fueled by stories of their homeland of 100 years ago, and a bit jealous about the Netherese empire.
Of course, the Netherese may want to colonize the ruins as well, because Halruaans were originally descendants of Netheril. Then you can have nice sort of "Evil Empire" vs. "Freedom Fighters" sort of thing.
I sort of feel like Halruaa makes more sense to be a collapsed nation rather than "Whoops it blewed up, all gone."
Failure of magic in that society would cause destruction of cities even without random explosions because most cities had magically-supported architecture.
Their defenses were almost entirely magic-based, so monsters could then overrun the (helpless) population.
-The Spellplague was actually supposed to "skip over" places that were magic-rich (Myth Drannor, Waterdeep, Shade, Calimport, Silverymoon, etc.), so...
-I'm not crying over spilled milk. I'll be cranky and aggravated, but I'm certainly not crying over it. Especially since I have my projects, and am in a campaign with a good DM and even better players.
Agreed, on all points.;)
Agreed, on all points.;)
-A campaign filled with good players except for one? :P
-A campaign filled with good players except for one? :P
Everyone is wonderful.:D
-Some moreso than others?
Oh, stop it you!:embarrass ;)
For my 4E FR game I don’t have any specific plans regarding Halruaa. Our game is set in Cormyr and won’t be leaving that area anytime soon.
I think if I did move play to Halruaa, I would run it as written in the FR Campaign Guide. My players aren’t heavy into the lore of the place, we only visited it once in our 3.5 FR game) and I think would enjoy the change of scenery.
Halarahh is now a ruin not unlike Myth Drannor, but with a decidedly more savage periphery. There’s all kinds of lizardfolk and sarrukh activity in Halruaa, Rethild, Ilimar and so on.
The 500-foot-tall stone heads at Chasolne sound pretty cool to. I’d like to build in the description of that place and flesh out the tunnels beyond them where sarrukh dwell and perform experiments on captured sailors and lizardfolk, and send agents via active portals to Ilimar and Okoth.
What I'm picturing - and the way I plan on presenting it on MY 4e maps - is of a chain of islands. Some will be dead magic, some wild magic, some filled with Spellplague, and others portals to other worlds, and still others with crusty old ruins (some of which may have come from other worlds).
A couple of islands will be large, a bunch medium, and hundreds of tiny islets - some barely more then rocks jutting up from the bottom.
Also, the entire region will be a meteorological nightmare - Hot, sticky weather being replaced by gusts of mind-numbing (and water-freezing) cold, insane storms coming out of nowhere (bringing their own chaotic effects with them), rains of blood, fogs of shadow, etc, etc...
In other words, Hell on Earth (or Toril, in this case).
Sounds interesting. and Considering the apocalyptic changes to Toril. it may fit. I intend to use it as a bunch of small island chains, not completely destroyed. We'll have to put Halruaa back together again. Kinda like humpty dumpty.
I've decided to have in my game that the capitol of Halruaa has escaped the blast, but has been shunted away to it's own pocket dimension. The explosion of magical force in Halruaa caused a magical implosion around the city proper ripping it free from Faerun and pushing it into it's own pocket realm. Currently it haunts the dreams of mages and other magically gifted people who sleep to close to the plaguelands. It's a call from the mages within for aid. The key to this is a simple gem within the crater of where the main city was. This gem though is the physical manifestation of that plane intruding on Faerun. It wil take powerful magic to pull the city back, not to mention an area able to hold it as the city will takeup the same space it did before destroying everything in it's path.
I figure I'll work it into my game with the group hired by a mage who has an inkling of what has happened, but plans to use the gem as a weapon. Releasing Halruaa not as an act of kidness but using it like a bomb. The players in my game will of course turn it over for money before they ask questions (my group is very mercenary). It will allow me to keep some part of Halruaa alive and give the players a chance to decide where it should go in the realms since they'll plant the city where they think it would be best. Of course they could mess me up and hand the gem over to Netheril or something else since they are the definition of unaligned.