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#1 pete8441806 Mar 25, 2009 8:28:56	Myth Adofhaer disappeared from faerun in -4300 DR and has not as far as I can tell reappeared since???? If it did come back would it still have a functioning mythal?
#2 lord_karsus Mar 25, 2009 14:18:38	-No, nothing has happened with it as of right now. And, presuming that nothing happened to it's Mythal while it was "away", yes, it would still have a functioning Mythal. -Information about Myth Adofhaer (or, Myth Adofaer), can be found in Elves of Faerûn.
#3 krownhunter07 Mar 25, 2009 15:26:53	Also PG 93, Lost Empires of Faerun, has (very little) information on the subject.
#4 quale1 Mar 25, 2009 15:34:21	mythals deteriorate over time, think this one is in temporal stasis
#5 krownhunter07 Mar 25, 2009 15:43:28	mythals deteriorate over time, think this one is in temporal stasis Yes and yes. Some Mythals break down after a time and the city is in a stasis (they 'left' for the future). That said, I think that they would have came back if the magic was failing. New interest in the city (and all the old elven magic in that area) started around 1374 DR, when the elves started their crusade. Now, the Eldurth Veluthra are interested in finding them and bringing them back with the intent of beefing up their ranks with like minded elves (although they don't know for sure that they will feel the same way about humans). If you're using 4e, then, as of yet, we haven't heard anything 'new' regarding Myth Adofhaer.
#6 lord_karsus Mar 25, 2009 16:05:39	-Wizardly Mythals deteriorate over time. True Elven High Magic Mythals do not, unless outside corruption (ie, the presence of Devils, Demons, etc., mass deforestation/loss of life) creeps in.
#7 old_sage Mar 25, 2009 18:32:05	Steven Schend also managed to share a few thought on Adofhaer over at Candlekeep a couple of years ago:- "Myth Adofhaer...sheesh. I had to go back and reread what I wrote.... Forgot quite a bit about Siluvanede and its mythal city.... Actually, it's taking me more than an hour to even scare up references and files to this site and/or details on Siluvanede. I'll have to look at reorganizing files so I can find things easier. Off the top of my head, it's the last Siluvanedden city, its mythal sets it into a side-dimension/pocket dimension (but not that of Shade), and it will be chock full of gold elves exclusively. Now, are they those who didn't agree with the corrupt leadership, leaving with lots of lore in hopes for the future? Are they those who left after "the Sixth Crown War" in hopes of revenge later vs. Sharrven? What exactly did they do to the mythal that blipped them out of phase with the Realms and why haven't they been found? I always considered it a time-shift, and they've sent themselves along to the future but won't rematerialize until it's safe. Conditions for its return really depend on who pulled the city out of reality, dunnit?" and:- "Honestly, using my old notes on elvish, "ado" is peace/peaceful and "faer" is magic; thus Myth Adofaer (no h in there I was aware of, unless my notes are wrong) is "the place of peaceful magics." Alternately, there could have been some elven disinformation campaigns going on all across the centuries... What if the city's name was actually Myth Adofhaor? "Fhaor" is the concept of magical death/change/alteration (but not of an evil nature), so the city could have been some crucible of change seen as a good thing by the Siluvanedden. Innit great how one or two letters can totally change one's perceptions of an idea? Just another direction y'all can take this in your campaigns, if you so choose...." and:- "Well, if Myth Adofaer/Adofhaor truly time-shifted with its mythal, that's one possible outcome, in having the orc horde invade the city and have them pull themselves out of time again, not feeling too safe. Another option, which I don't think is used often enough, is this: Gates permeate the High Forest (as well as all of Faerun); who say's they all transport people across space? What if they simply tunnel short-cuts through time, throwing people days or weeks or centuries ahead rather than miles? I love the idea of an orc horde and Ellarthion's Crusade rumbling out of the High Forest next Mirtul... Steven"
#8 markustay63 Mar 26, 2009 0:20:28	Well, if you pronounce it - Myth Out-of-here - you can at least see where the concept came from. ;) "Man... these Crown Wars suck... we are SO out-of-here!"
#9 pete8441806 Mar 26, 2009 1:13:49	I thought is left after the crown wars but in the seven citadel's war?
#10 Krash Mar 26, 2009 17:19:26	I thought is left after the crown wars but in the seven citadel's war? Correct. -- George Krashos
#11 markustay63 Mar 26, 2009 22:15:21	Whatever... Elven history bores the crap out of me - I'm proud to say that my Ruins of Myth Drannor boxed set is still shrink-wrapped. :P